Preserved Topic: the one browser? (Page 1 of 1)

òk, i was thinking alot about cross browser issues lately, and w3c standards and so.
imagine: say every browser would hold on the given w3c standards.
they would all be xml, xhtml, javascript, dom, smil, whatever, ... compatible at 100%

what would be the outcome?
every page would have the same look and feel and interaction in every browser.
result: we probably would only have one browser!
the almighty over-mega-ultra-browser. THE browser.

conclusion: hey,where would all the fun go if everything would work? all browser-specialists would be jobless.
there would be nothing to rant about. nothing like "Netscape 4 sucks!"

is that true or am i right?

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...me and Mike wouldn't have anything to pick on VP about...

I would think web technology could speed up progress quite a bit yah! It would be nice, but i dont ever expect to see it.

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I think (hope) standards will come one day, like in many other industries.
It doesn't have to be one browser, but they all should be standard compliant.

>> where would all the fun go
I would say, the fun would start there, because we could start to focus our energy on real stuff.

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One browser standard, that's all I want. I don't care how many different browsers are out there, I just want one standard. Why? So I can concentrate on what (to me) is more important - the actual web-design, and not on 'oh, dangit, that won't work under said browser, back to the drawing board'. IMHO it won't make all sites look alike. Design comes from inside, not from a browser, or a standard.

One browser would be bad.

becuase that browser would begin to dictate how we build web pages. all based on it's own business agenda.

One standard, to which all browsers adhere, keeps companies a bit more honest and precludes the whole dictatorship thing.

it's that whole anti monopoly deal....kind of the basis of a modern capitalist society...

thanks for your input

im talking w3c standards, ok?

I think we all are...

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that sounds.... strangly familiar. dejavue i guez.

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I think that even if we have all browsers committed to and following the "one true standard", we'll *still* have cross browser issues! The problem is that standards can be followed, but interpreted differently. The only way to ensure this is to specify *every* little piddly detail, and if this level of completeness is required, then new standards will be introduced slowly, if at all. Remember, this initial slowness was what prompted the original browser manufacturers to start bypassing the standards and introducing new features that people (designers!) wanted, and were unwilling to wait for. (I still remember how proud I was when I was one of the top 3 sites in the "Netscape Hall of Shame", we used Netscape's bugs and unapproved features to do really cool things, things we take for granted now.)

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Plus, there will always be different interfaces to them. Browsers following standards more closely can only make our job easier. Less of this:

if (IE)
else if (NN)
else if (opera)
else if (DOM)
else if (AAAAAUGH)

Lets say there is a standard and all browsers follow that standard. I design the next greatest thing in image compression: OspreySqueeze its elegant, its easy to use, its the I cant believe its not butter of image compression. I submit it to the Browser Standards Committee. The BS Committee gets around to it 8 years later, and since Browsersoft owns 4 of the 5 people on that commitee and I refuse to sell OspreySqueeze to Browsersoft they vote it out. Now all the inmates in the asylum still complain about image size when they could have been zipping along with my software 8 years ago.

Even if every browser vigorously and correctly supported the standards, all the standards and nothing but the standards, there's still plenty of room for innovation in the user interface and other feature sets.

Looking only at UI and added features, each of the three major version 6 browsers does some things better than its competitors, and they each have their own look and feel.

I don't think that W3C compliance alone will make browsers indistiguishable from one another. The closer they come to standards-compliance, there more likely they are to differentiate themselves in UI and added features.

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