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Maskkkk
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Willaimsport, PA, US of A the hole in the Ozone
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 08-21-2003 23:06

Ok maybe this is just one of those geeky things that I or anyone else would have no purpose at all for, but...

Is there anyway to see what an optical mouse sees out of that little camera on the bottom of it?



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Schitzoboy
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Yes
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 08-21-2003 23:09

LOL, I dunno, but I definetly concur that it would be cool! It would make a fun desktop too.

viol
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Charles River
Insane since: May 2002

posted posted 08-21-2003 23:12

The mousepad?

Veneficuz
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: A graveyard of dreams
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 08-22-2003 01:16

I'm pretty sure the calculations done to figure out how much the mouse has moved are done inside the mouse, so the images aren't sent to the computer. So to access the images you would probably have to open up the mouse and 're-program' the hardware in some way.

But it would be fun if it was a simple way of doing it

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viol
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Charles River
Insane since: May 2002

posted posted 08-22-2003 02:34

It depends pretty much on the kind of surface the mouse is being moved over. If it's a plain gray mousepad, no much fun. If it's a photo of some porn star, that'll be interesting. Or even some live surface...

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 08-22-2003 03:02

I don't know much about how it works, but I don't think it's a "camera" in the sense that you can get an 800x600 picture out of it. I don't think it has any *resolution* - it's just one laser whose reflections are analyzed. If you can get *any* picture out of it, I doubt it'll have a resolution higher than 3x3.

counterfeitbacon
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Vancouver, WA
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 08-22-2003 03:43

Now keep in mind that this is just speculation, but...Have you ever looked at an "optical mousepad." They are a bunch of alterations between two distint colors. Like white-black, or grey-light grey. The camera in the mouse must sense color variation and then move the pointer based on that. BUT. Why make the mousepads like that, I think that since they can make a cheap optical mousepad by just alternating colors like that, that the cameras resolution must be just 5*5 or something.

Rooster
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: the uterus
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 08-22-2003 04:24

Actually the optical mice do take real pictures, and I would imagine the resolution is be significantly higher than (5 x 5) because they use the same technology that is now used in certain digital cameras (CMOS). The red light isn?t a laser it's just a LED used to illuminate the working surface to aid in displacement analyses. They actually have some substantial hardware; I think they take something like 1,400 pictures every second. But no, there's no practical way to extract the images because all of the processing takes place inside mouse; all that gets sent to the box is raw coordinates.

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 08-22-2003 04:44

All i know is that red led sure is dang skippy bright. yeowch.

You would probably have to aim it at the sun if you wanted to take a picture... i dunno.

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 08-22-2003 08:04

Actually that LED is a laser, just not in the traditional sense. It does have a focus point, but it's more wide spread than a standard laser, and it does use the excitement of electrons to prodce photons on fall off that are all of the one wavelength. Hence the reason it's full name is a Laser Light Emitting Diode. They use the same things in Laser Light Pointers.

Lacuna
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: the Asylum ghetto
Insane since: Oct 2002

posted posted 08-22-2003 08:20

stumbled across this site the other day....and when i saw this thread i thought of this site

How Stuff Works
the explaination for an optical mouse is towards the bottom.

also found this for how they work: Tech Explained

pretty groovy...as it's just one of those things i don't question...it just is

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