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kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-03-2000 23:55

Hey, I was just playing around with some tuts and made this. Can anyone give me some tips to make it look just a tad more realistic? There is just something not quite right about it...


<edit> Oh shit... http://www.krets.net/eyeball.jpg</edit>
I am going to add some capillaries in there but what else?



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vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-04-2000 00:02

Wow.. is it an eye from the invisible man?.. heh

looks quite good krets... maybe a bit too round?... perhaps....

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Petskull
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From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-04-2000 07:57

I find if you bevel spheres it makes them look more 3d... and try a little lighting effects?

<IDEA STYLE="wierd; avanguard;">
How about changing the pupil to something really cool like a slit like a lizard and making the iris a little read and yellow...
</IDEA>

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Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-04-2000 13:36

CTRL+CLICK the layer with the eye on it to get the circular selection of it, create a new layer above it. Do a radial gradient of foreground to background on that layer in the selection from the area where you want the hotspot to be to the darkest side of it(which will bge one of the edges of the circle). Make the bacground colour black and the foreground colour mid-grey.

Change the layer blending mode to 'overlay'. With the eye still selected, goto IMAGE>>ADJUST>>BRIGHTNESS/CONTRAST and adjust it up to 100%, repeat, this time to 83%. Flatten image and voila!

This is what I came up with http://www.geocities.com/freizah/eyeball.jpg

That what you were looking for?




Just when you thought that taste was dead, I came along and buried it - Skaarjj

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 11-04-2000 18:46

I really don't see much difference skaarrj....except there's a little more grey....

You need to make a lot more depth on the white....but you can't forget the backlighting either.

It needs more shine...more highlight...more contrast, you know?

the detail in the iris is too faint and the color too opaque....(see above <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif"> )

capilaries will help of course, but you already mentioned that.

not a bad start though <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

butcher
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: New Jersey, USA
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-04-2000 21:46

I think it needs some kind of reflection. When you look in someones eyes, there is always a reflection of other things in the room in their eyes.

Reve
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: I own you at Quake
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-04-2000 22:25

Some light red spots, the capriliesthings, and i think this is the kicker, make the eye look wet, ya knwo what i mean, it looks liek its made outa glass

SlimeyD
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Drew , Mississippi , U.S.
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 11-04-2000 23:07

wheres a good place to find a tutorial on making eyeballs. i lost my bookmarks that i had and i didn't see it on any other sites any help will be apprecaited

Dan
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-04-2000 23:16

http://www.marblemad.com/mmvalley2/ has the best eye tutorial I've seen.

- Dan -

mbridge
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-05-2000 03:03

Here's what I came up with.

vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-05-2000 03:10

eeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.. now thats a little to real! LOL.. way cool mbridge! .. bring on the eyeballs! LOL

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 11-05-2000 18:19

Damn! just a broken link for me mbridge...wanted to see yours. ah well.

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 05:48

oh man oh man oh man..... i think i need a new sig now... Mb... that is really neato, the only prob is that the white part of the eye is rather small compaired to the lense, much like HumanS's.... it would be neat if ya could see the red stuff more.

ZAER

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 11:27

The only problem for me with that tute is that it is in French or something.

here another attempt that I had. Please don't blast me this time






Just when you thought that taste was dead, I came along and buried it - Skaarjj

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 13:35

Who's blasting anyone skaarjj???

that one's better, but it needs a more cohesive outer "shell" .....does that make sense? right now it looks like the iris and pupil are popping up out of the white. Needs to look like the cornea is covering it all.

I haven't tried an eyeball yet...if I have time I'll give it a go.

Metahedron
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: TriCites TN/VA
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 19:43

mbridge - the subtle reflection of the windows is amazing. Truly amazing.


Contained within this sentence is an information virus which has just lept from your computer to your brain.

mbridge
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 20:50

Thank you. The image has around 60 layers, most of them detailing the muscles in the iris. I can do a small write up if you're interested.

e306
Obsessive-Compulsive (I) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 21:04

yes, yes, yes!!!! we ARE interested!.. at least I am..

Human Shield
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 21:22

Doing eyes are fun.



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mbridge
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 00:28

Ok, for the iris, I just made a circular selection, took the airbrush with a small size and opacity, selected random blue colors, then made curvy lines outward from the center. I made a black circle in the middle and blurred it's edges very slightly (the pupil). Then I made a white oval for the outside part. I selected the transparency of the iris, cntrl-shift-i, then fill with black, cntrl-shift-i again, then blur even so slightly, cntrl-shift-i, delete. Repeat this process again for the outer part of the eyeball. Then....more highlights and shadows on the white part. I think I ran a lighting effects, duplicated the layer and set one to multiply (35-50%) and one to color dodge (15%). I can't quite remember, but I know I had several other highlight and shadow layers. Experiment! Then I added some light red wavy lines set to 10% opacity on the white part. The highlights are just white ovals, slightly blurred, set to color dodge.

Weadah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: TipToToe
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 15:56

More than 60 layers! That's what I like to hear hehe. Totally wicked work Mbridge. Top shelf man.

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-08-2000 06:01

DL: I was making a small joke there towards your name. I didn't seriously mean that you were blasting me for doing a bad job. Guess I should have put that slimie in there.

And yeah, I get what you mena by the outer shell thingy, you mean that film of oils and stuff that always coat the eyeball? I know all about that, it's just I can't do it, I've never been much good at shiny stuff like that, any good tutes you know about?


Just when you thought that taste was dead, I came along and buried it - Skaarjj

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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 11-08-2000 13:48

ahhhhhhhhhhhh.....okay, I get it <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">

Guess I just have some residuals from when all those people came in and cried like little girls if anyone said anything negative about their work. <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/tongue.gif">

Don't know of any tutes off hand...haven't tried an eyeball yet either....soon.

Dan
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-12-2000 04:32



I liked this thread, gotta try and save it! LoL

Long live eyes!

- Dan -

docilebob
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: buttcrack of the midwest
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-16-2000 01:56

How`s this KRETS ? Is this what you were looking for ? DL-44 suggested more contrast, and a little more continuity in the iris which can be done if it`s close..
It involves 9 or 10 layers in varing opacities and modes, a bit o airbrush, some lighting effects, 2 pepsis and 4 swiss cake rolls

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-16-2000 14:09

That iris there is way to small, unless you have a rare (and real) condition where your iris is really small and so you can see the whole thing in the eye socket, not just the middle.




Executing a person who has done something wrong as an example to others is often a couse of action that leads to ordering the last person to cut their own throat as an example to themselves - Terry Pratchett

Blook
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Utah, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-17-2000 00:02

Here is my atempt, pretty real looking eh?




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vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-17-2000 00:08

LOL Blook! I like! if I wasn't a gentleman and we were a male only forum I might be tempted to make further deductions in regard to your 'eyes',, heh

Blook
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Utah, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-17-2000 00:11

Which tut do I need to learn to get rid of the white outlines? I freaking suck! I can't get stuff to look good on this forum like everyone else. Just look at the jaggies on my sig! ARGH!

vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-17-2000 00:19

well what I do.. probably more long winded than other folks around here.. lol.. is create my sig over a background colour of 40,4,4 (rgb values).... then I will merge all layers leaving just the background layer and the merged one. Then I load the upper layer (CTRL Click on the layer icon) and then go to my channels palette and create a new alpha channel using the selection I just created. Next (if needed) I will do a bit of touch up using levels/curves, sometimes a tad of gaussian blur.

Then I go back to my layer palette.. and then convert my doc from rgb to indexed (image-->mode--->indexed) allowing PS to flatten my image.

Next I will go to file--->export--->gif89a and use the alpha channel I created as a mask to select the areas I want to be transparent!..

hey presto! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif"> (long winded but always works for me..I think!)

hope that helps...

kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-17-2000 00:22

Damn VP that takes too long!

I just use that #280404 color and then before I want to save my file I click the eyeball dealie to make that layer transparent then do the Export --> Gif89a thingie!

vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-17-2000 00:28

lol Krets! what can I say! I am old fashioned!




edit: woo hoo.. flame on!

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Blook
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Utah, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-17-2000 00:45

What is "that #280404 color" thing? I know I should know some of this stuff for as long as I've been playing with photoshop so sue me. Can you tell me what the color thing does?

kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-17-2000 00:49

Vogon gave the RGB code for the color. I gave you the HTML equivalent. Basically it is a color that is halfway between the light and dark colors of the forum.

Use that color for your matte on your tranny gifs to make them look good on both shades.

vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-17-2000 00:52

Krets is specifying the same colour as I did , except as a hexidecimal code....

rgb value is 40, 4, 4

hexidecimal value is #280404

hexidecimal numbers are used in html to specify colour... if you look at most html sources for web pages you will see these hexidecimal codes used for BGCOLOR=#xxxxxx where xxxxxx is equal to a colour...

it can be used whenever a colour needs to be specified, i.e. font color or in the body tag for BGCOLOR, or for a cell background color ...

edit: typos
edit: btw.. this hexidecimal is only supported in PS5.5 and I presume 6.0.. previous versions dont include this in the color picker menu!... fyi



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Blook
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Utah, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-17-2000 01:09

I started a new thread so this could remain somewhat about eyeballs.

I understand the colors and RGB and HEX, the part I don't get is the mask. Maybe I need to try it in 5.5 and not 6.0

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