Preserved Topic: World Cup, Part IV (spoilers!) (Page 2 of 3)

As I mentioned to Wakkos, Hiddink is very confident concerning the upcoming match--he's coached in Spain, and he knows the Spanish team very well. On the other hand, the fact that no one really knows the Korean team has worked to their advantage. Personally, I think Korea stands a better chance against Spain than they did against Italy. It's still going to be a good game, though.

Of course, if my wishes come true and both Korea and the US win, they'll have to face each other again. That's not something I really want to happen, but on the positive side it means at least one of my teams will go through.

Ok, the game is about to start...man, I'm a wreck here...and getting it from every side...GRRRR!

I hope our boys kick the living s**t out of the Germans...!

Go USA!!!!

Ok, it's started...

Go USA!!!!

SHIT! 1-0. My life just got unbearable...we have a TV here at work...*shakes head* Looks bad for our boys...we didn't make the first goal...Dammit!

C'mon USA!!! It looks hopeless...but just maybe...



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Well, there's a goal, but's it wasn't scored by the team I was hoping would score it. Still, though, we've outplayed the Germans so far, and if we can just keep our heads on our shoulders we can get back into it.

Getting yellow cards, however, is not the way to keep your head on your shoulders.

[We've got to stop giving them close free kicks like this. It's killing us.]

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C'mon US!!! GO! GO!! GO!!!!

Ballak and Klose are very good headers, so, yes, STOP THOSE FOULTS!

OK, we got out of the first half without giving up any more goals. We're only down by one, and if we come out in the second half like we did in the first I think we'll be able to score. Go team!

Ok, second half...the half-time was unbearable in the break room...a taste of what could come *shudders at the thought...taking a real beating here...thinking of 'going postal' here...*

GO USA!!!

Damn it!! Khan definetly earned his pay on that one...

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Um, that was handling... that should have been the tying goal... bastards.

it was not handling. the hand didnt go towards the ball, infact it went away!

C'mon US!!! Without goals, you can't win...let's get on the board!!!!!! GO US!!!!!!

OK, folks, the mohawk is in the game! Now is the time for a comeback!

Dammit! Again, a chance...and nothing...I think destiny is against us...*goes into rave modus*

C'mon US!!!!

Well, even if the Germans win...that's a lot of yellow cards...and it just gets worse. On the other hand...our side has a lot, too.

Looks bad...

C'mon US!!! One goal!

are Yellow Cards retained between matches?

Grumble: the ball hit a defender's arm. How is that not handling? Not that it matters at this point...

[Edit: Yellow cards carry over to the next match]

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have USA lost yet? hope so

Man, the US is definitely playing better then the Germans...we just need that f**king goal!

C'mon, get that goal!! Go USA!!!

Not yet, aroma. Stop being a prick. Geez, talk about sore losers...

WS: I'm gonna have to agree with you... it appears fate is against us.

Well, that's it. WS, I feel for you man. Good luck convincing the Germans that we played a better game and still lost. Now I can only hope that Korea advances and beats the Germans senseless.

I know I can't say this without sounding biased (because I am), but that was a game we should have won. On the positive side, I think US football is definitely on the rise, and I expect better things next year. Now only one of my teams is left, and they face Spain tomorrow.

suho, to get back to that handling:
the rules say, that it is only handling if the player is actively influencing the direction of the ball. and in that case the ball got shot on the hand and german defender even wanted to pull his hand away.

i remember france 98' when italy lost because of a wrong decision in nearly the same situation. it was roberto baggio who caused a "hands" which wasnt really one! then the others got an 11-meter and italy was out. like always italy is loosing because of wrong referre decisions.

webshaman, why the hell are you posting "go usa" hundred times in the same thread? isnt it enough one time?
anyway... lucky germany did it again.

Hope Spain Beat Korea, then, I'm sure to beat germany!

Grumble: I understand the rules, but I'm still not sure if the player wasn't trying to actively influence the ball. It was his arm, after all, that prevented the ball from going in. As I said before, though, it is now a moot point. Whether it was a good call or a bad call, it's not going to change the result. Lucky Germany is right, though.

Wakkos: *sigh* We'll just have to see how tomorrow's match goes, won't we? Don't be too confident of a victory, though. Unfortunately, I won't be around to comment here. I'll be away for most of the weekend. Hope you enjoy the match, whichever way it does go.

I find it interesting, though, how Korea is merely underestimated, while the US is hated. Not surprising, of course, just interesting... it's a lot easier to root for a team that people don't hate, just underestimate.

Heh. Didn't catch this the first time around:

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like always italy is loosing because of wrong referre decisions.

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Please, Grumble, for the love of God, tell me you are not one of the people who think the referee "gave" the match to Korea. It's embarassing, for crying out loud. Sorry, but I'm a bit on edge because of that.

Well, it's over...too bad with the hand-play (should have been 11 meter), but them's the breaks....however, the Germans did not impress me...on the contrary...the US played an overwhelmingly dominate game...but without a goal, you can't win.

So congrats Germany...(yes, I am a fair loser...even if it is said with gritted teeth, our boys played very well, and can go home with their heads held high).

@Grumble - sorry if it bothered you...but I was pretty hyped for our boys...if I offended anyone with that, then I apologize..

But at least I don't hide behind referees, now, do I? Wanna win? Shoot some goals. Period. That's why America lost. Calls (from referees) to the side, the ball has to go into the goal to win...and we just didn't do that...and Germany did. Nothing else matters but the end result.

As far as Italy goes, they are cry babies...instead of concentrating on the real failures (i.e. not making the many goal chances into goals).

But them's the breaks...

Go Korea!!!!!

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suho, i am not referring to the korea game specially (but also this one). i mean in general italy often had bad luck with referees in the last WMs and EMs except for the USA94 finale.

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quote: the referee "gave" the match to Korea.

he didnt give it korea, but his wrong decision made korea win. infact, be honest suho, the one goal italy scored in the after time was regular and totti's red card was infact a foul which would have brought another 11-meter for italy. and the 11-meter foul in the beginning of the game was also not a foul, so after all italy should have won 3:0 if everything would be correct and if i am a fuckin bastard italian faschist. wuhahaha....
dont take me serious suho.

well im outta here for the next 3 days, there is europe's biggest outdoor party goin on at my place!

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WS: Yep, that is unfortunately one of the rules of football.

But you're right about Germany. If Korea can get past Spain, I think they have a shot at the finals... *crosses fingers*

[Edit: Grumble - OK, I hear you. Sorry man, I'm a bit peeved at the moment, if you can imagine...]

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ohhh weeeyyyy...and US looked sooo good on the field.. they played really great game...

now, I have no reason to watch Wcup =(

MAX

GREAT GAME by both sides .. even though we all know who fought the harder match .. I think the only mistake was made by the US Goal Keeper .. that ball was far to close to his goal line and he should have come OUT to jump for it .. instead he was PINNED on his goal line .. and couldn't do much .. that was the only mistake that cost US the game

good game by both sides .. though US just didn't prevail on it's golden opportunities


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Suho, I'm not underestimating the Korean TEam!!
they have a lot of probabilities of winning that game!!
I'm a little scared because of that!

What we call here 'the red tide' is going to be our worst enemy, besides of the really fast Korean Game, add that the fact that Hiddink knows very good the spanish team (he speaks perfect spanish too!)

So, we will see!!
I wish spain wins, but I have no reasons to say that Spain is going to win. It's going to be a hard game.

Hey Suho you said stop being a prick right!! well i'm really gonna start supporting the US after this was said "Who cares about Britian? Lets go USA !" Brasil - Germany final any takers?

Cheers Aroma

I said that, and Im not even American...
Lighten up a little. I have a lot of british friends, and that was a joke to them.


[edit] And look at purpose, my post was there clearly to direct attention to the USA - Germany game, yours was there clearly to offend Americans.


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I would have taken it as a joke if Suho hadn't had butted in!!! I thought his team had already qualified magnificently!!!

Anywayz USA and England had a very good cup run the best in a long time!!!!

Cheers Aroma

[edit] me got up @ 5:30 this morning to go to my city centre to watch the game not so big as the 500,000 that went to Suho's city centre but a cool 5000 watched the game!!!

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It has started...sorry wakky but...Go Korea!

Looks like its going to be a hard match...still 0-0.

Still 0-0, however, should it continue at its present state, Korea will win...the Koreans are putting great pressure on the Spanish...

Half-time...and still 0-0. The second half will be hotly contested, I think. Really surprised that the Koreans are playing such good soccer. Of course, the Spanish are also playing well. Should be a very interesting second half.

Whoever wins will crush the Germans with this level of soccer...the Germans just are not in this league...unless they 'fix' their game dramatically...

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I told you before: No Korean is going for the left side, Puyol is there!!!!!
I told you before: Joaquín is going to make very good things up there!!!

Valerón and De Pedro are making a good game for the right side, added to that, the innocence of the Koreans in the defense, I hope the game keeps as the 1st part last 15 minutes

hehe...I can imagine that you are just about to the point of pulling out all that hair, eh, wakky? What an exciting game it has been so far.

The second half will tell. You must really be nervous about now...and I would guess that master Suho is, as well...

Wish I wasn't at work, so I could enjoy a coupla beers to this match...*sigh* Oh well, at least I gots a TV here...

Suho is probably as nervous as I am!!! hehehe

WS, At Work?
Saturday?
9:30 am?

I haven't sleep anything, just went to visit my cousin in his new job (Barman)
but this game keeps me awake!!!!

THAT was a valid goal of Spain.
Why it was not validated?

No, it wasn't valid.

Spain is in big trouble at the moment...the Koreans are building momentum, and are running through the Spanish defence as if it wasn't there...only the attacks are not all that well coordinated...the only reason that Spain is still in the game.

Spain needs to do something fast, or the koreans will eventually get it together...and score.

What is Spain thinking??!!?? The last couple of 'attacks' (if you could call them that) have not been worthy of Spain...I've seen them play much better...

Still 0-0 though...

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Why it was not valid?
I didn't get it. The korean TV seems not to want to replay the scene.

I think the call was off-sides...

The Germans kinda skipped over it, too, but the sideline referee had that flag up, so...

Ok, it seems the Spanish are starting to move something...and the Koreans are somehow...getting tired? The Korean attack is faltering...

Unless something unusual happens, this game will go into over-time...but that last shot from Korea was not bad...

Ok, as expected, over-time...this could be interesting...

For the game...pretty uninteresting (as far as goals go...). I would say the Koreans played better than the Spanish, but have no goal to show it.

Now it all comes down to who scores first...or we go to 11 meter shooting...



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