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InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 08-30-2002 21:26

Follow the recipe:

Add one Spanish 1 Class 5'th period project on Dominican Republic

Add one 14 year old that is slightly talented at Flash

Add one Flash 5 movie

Stir (work) for 1 1/2 hours

Result:

96% Grade on Project...

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Yes thats right you can see the movie/website I made out of flash on the Dominican Republic that earned me a 96% in Spanish 1, right here.

It takes about 10-20 seconds to load on a 56k. Please don't throw anything at me for the pop-ups, it's hypermart's fault!


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andy_j
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: uk
Insane since: Aug 2002

posted posted 08-30-2002 21:35

congratulations

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 08-30-2002 22:09

in a design you should always stay with one type of font (serif, sans serif, courier, ..) in your case you mixed three.

otherwise good job.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 08-30-2002 22:15

I mixed 2....

the links and the back button was monotype corsiva or something, and the info was verdana

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 08-30-2002 22:24

and the text link is times.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 08-30-2002 22:32

text link? wtf? no I used 2 im pretty sure

ZOX
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Southern Alabama, USA
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 08-30-2002 23:04

Congratulation!
Looks good Insider.
Much better than I could have done when I was 14 (of course when I was 14 there was no flash, or internet... and all we had in school were old compis computers)

And I think the fonts looks ok too.

kretsminky
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From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 08-30-2002 23:51

grum: The link at the bottom was added in by Hypermart...

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 08-31-2002 00:23

Grumbs if you were refering to what kretts was saying, that WAS added by hypermart, those assholes!

I used to be able to prevent all pop-ups/adds using

code:
</HTML>
<noscript>

<!--#echo banner=""-->

</noscript>



but now... well im gonna make me a site soon so ill kiss hypermart g-bye


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Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 08-31-2002 01:52
quote:
Kids are required to attench schools from ages 6-15

If you are 15 or older you are expected to be literate, literacy is 89%


Hahaha!

A baffling misspelling in a statement about schooling and a run-on sentence about literacy, with neither sentence employing correct punctuation; that's hilarious.

I don't know why teachers don't take off more for grammar and punctuation anymore. That should be graded in every class.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 08-31-2002 02:39

Attench was a typo ok? Attend* Better?

The project wasn't supposed to be eligible for the pulitzer prize.

Steve
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Boston, MA, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 08-31-2002 03:10

Sign.

I wasn't gonna mention "Geogrophic Facts", but Wes (who's made an astonishing recovery from food poisoning and being a victim of robbery I must say) made me do it.

Probably a good idea to run the next assignment past the eagle eyes here *before* you turn it in! Best darn proofreaders around. I know first-hand.

And before you get all defensive about being picked on for "typos" as if they don't matter, believe me when I tell you I've let some whoppers get by me in some tutorials, and yes - they *do* matter, and yes they get caught, and yes the readers tell me, and yes - I say "thank you for catching that!"



Ask bre'r reitsma. That's all I can say. He recently noted that I mixed up "curser" and "cursor" which at one level is pretty funny. But not really.

I know Flash doesn't have a spell-check yet, but you didn't have *that* many words there. It's easy to get caught up in everything *but* spelling - but next time take a step back, or have someone else look at it. It makes a difference in how your work is regarded. Really.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 08-31-2002 03:33

As I said, this was a quick project, not an exam or anything.

Steve
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Boston, MA, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 08-31-2002 04:11

You don't get it.

You will.

synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 08-31-2002 05:00

Jesus! I don't remember doing piddly little projects like this when I was 14... I dunno, maybe the education system is alot more different between our two countries than I thought


96%... Good for you.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 08-31-2002 05:06

I do steve I understood, but I don't want it to seem like I don't care about grammer, I do...

Thanks though.

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 08-31-2002 05:40

"Grammer" -- hahaha!

Keep him talking...!

Incidentally, Insider, the mistakes in your "quick project" are atrocious; they go far beyond the one typo. If I had been your instructor, you would have gotten no more than a 75. What passes for literacy in U.S. schools anymore is sad.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 08-31-2002 06:06

Well I won't stick up for my school but I'll say they provide an education.

Listen, if I had known that you were my spanish 1 teacher, or that grammer and punctuation would be carefully observed then I probably wouldn't have done a flash, I would have just done a poster. But hey then again thanks for all your support! I really should have known that I would have had the finest literature proof readers this side of, anywhere. Wait no I shouldn't assuming is bad. Damn... Wes giving me a D-, that would really screw my 4.0 down.

I don't care, I spent time on it, I got a good grade. Only one student in my class knew what flash was. He was a junior that works at Barnes and Noble. Go figure?


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synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 08-31-2002 06:15

I'm sorry, either you're lying (about the 4.0) or your school is actually a McDonald's training session...

Dan
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 08-31-2002 06:22

Only two students in your class know what flash is, and your defending your education system (not so much defended, as saying that *you* can recieve an education in it)? Computer education was mandatory here when I was 14.
More importantly, you have approximately 10 lines of content, and 2 pictures. Now, normally, in a remedial Spanish class, thats probably acceptable, but then the children should at least be expected to write it in Spanish, right? I mean, for 96%, I'd expect more content than that even if you did do a poster.

I mean, it looks to me like an 87% average here must translate into approximately 450% in Kentucky.

....Maybe I'm just jealous because I don't have a 4.0 GPA

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 08-31-2002 06:25

Dude, there is no reason for you to be all defensive. There were a number of errors in there, they pointed them out. They also said that schools suck. My college sucks. no worries. once again, there is no reason for you to be defensive.

Next time you have a project, show it to us first and we will proof read it for yah, providing you dont try to bite our heads off again. I always get my stuff proof read. Always. It can be quite helpfull.

                                                           

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 08-31-2002 07:00

Yea yea, sorry

Dan: The purpose of that was that we all chose countries that spoke spanish as their native language, and we were to do a project on them while the rest of the class takes notes over your (my) presentation. I just thought I would share this because it ties in with web design and flash. Oh well

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 08-31-2002 07:22
quote:
but then the children should at least be expected to write it in Spanish, right?


That's what I'm thinking.

Incidentally, Insider ? and I'm resisting going through and correcting your whole project because I'm unbelievably bored ? the word is grammar. You also never use apostrophes in plurals in English or Spanish (pesos, not peso's), there are no apostrophes in 5th or 27th, and you need to learn the difference between its and it's (clue: it's is never possessive).

BTW, it's (it is) a favor I'm doing you here ? remember these grammar tips, learn more and apply them in everything you do, Pulitzer Prize (proper noun) or not. (Practice even here; it might make more of what you say understandable.) Believe me, few people will hire you in a professional position if your work contains the mistakes in the future that it does now. And later is not a time to learn.


Bugimus
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From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 08-31-2002 07:51

Isn't "sugarcane wheat" what they make Frosted Mini-Wheats out of?

InSiDeR, I'm really glad you shared that project with us so that we could impress upon you the importance of using proper grammar and spelling. It looks real nice but I have to say that your teacher has done you a disservice by making you feel good about a project so replete with misspellings.

I had to look up a couple words I just used in this post. Imagine how much more careful I would have been if I were doing this for a grade.

Just out of curiosity, are you in a public or private school right now?

. . : slicePuzzle

Trigger
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 08-31-2002 09:08

as for your nasty hyper mart tag.. try killing it with a <xml> tag


OlssonE
Maniac (V) Inmate

From:  Eagleshieldsbay, Sweden
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 08-31-2002 11:38

Why isn't that page in spanish?

kretsminky
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From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 08-31-2002 15:20

Guys, guys, guys! I know you're all chomping at the bit to ream Insider but he is only 14. He completed an assignment proposed by a teacher and got a decent grade on it, cheers to him.

I bet, if you will all recall your 14 year old days, you weren't perfect spellers either. Although, I don't expect most of you to admit that.

Having worked in the educational system for a couple years I can tell all of you that until you've experienced it first hand, you have absolutely no idea what the teachers and the kids are up against. I could go on for days telling stories from just two years of teaching that would make you shake your head.

I taught right about the level where Insider is and I can tell you that if I would have gotten a project like this, I would have shit my pants. Spelling errors aside (which (sadly), compared to the average 14 year old student, aren't all that bad) the project is far and above what I would have expected on a minor project I might assign in my class.

You want to bitch at someone? Don't bitch at him, he's a product of a society that would rather piss and moan about the products of a system instead of getting off their asses and doing something about it. I was a science teacher and my budget for the entire year was $490, that includes simple supplies like paper, tape, scissors, as well as supplies for any kinds of labs I wanted to do. I would imagine I spent probably 3 times that every year of my own money just to get the supplies I really needed.

That was on a salary most of you would just shake your head at. I don't know if many of you have looked into the requirements to become a teacher, but its not the laughing matter it once was. If I had been a student of a college of arts and sciences I would have graduated with a minor in chemistry. Even a basic chemistry tech would start at 10K a year more than I made.

It's easy to bitch about something, its very easy, especially when you don't know what really goes on in the classroom and in the schools. Schools are overworked, underfunded, and a lot of other "unders." There needs to be big changes in the educational system of this country or the problems you see now are just going to escalate. Please spare me the "when I was in school" or the "if I were a teacher" because you have no fucking clue what it's like to be in school now or to be a teacher now. Go try it for a while, then you can come back and give me your opinions.

Insider: Don't say you don't care about spelling, if there's anything I'd like to impress upon you is that it will become more and more important as you go on, that your spelling be perfect. It would have also made the project that much more complete; right now it sort of resembles a rough draft, and yes, I understand it was a minor project. In the future, either find someone to proofread your stuff before you submit it (parents are great for this) or type your text passages in Word, spellcheck them, then copy/paste into Flash. Otherwise, nice work. I don't know the objectives behind the project but I'd have probably given you an A as well. Oh, and if you wouldn't have had any spelling errors, all the knuckleheads up above wouldn't have had anything to nag at you about. That should be worth the few extra minutes of spell checking alone.


[This message has been edited by kretsminky (edited 08-31-2002).]

Steve
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Boston, MA, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 08-31-2002 16:22

Thanks Krets. I was thinking of something to write along those lines, but you did it first and better. I've got kids roughly insider's age, and I'd be pleased if they found the initiative to combine an assignment with something that made it fun and interesting. I too am not surprised that, minimal as it was, it got a good grade because I can imagine what the other kids turned in.

Point of all this insider: you look at things from a 14 year old perspective. You went above and beyond the minimum requirements and were rewarded for it.

However, many of your friends here look at things from a, well, "older" perspective and were sort of horrified. So don't be crushed - just get a glimpse of what "matters" a few years from now, while at the same time being reasonably pleased at what you accomplished.

And don't stop sharing your victories. God knows they can be few and far between for all of us.

It's mostly a matter of perspective. It's remarkable that a 14-year old and a 47-year old mingle on the same board, but we all have to look at life through each other's eyes. If there is one lesson you should take from this: you let the technology take over a little bit. I'll bet you wouldn't have made the same errors in Word, and I'll bet it would have been a little more complete. Don't avoid using Flash for school projects - it's a opportunity to learn Flash better. Just don't let the medium become the focus!

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 08-31-2002 17:53

whoa WHOA.... Thanks kretts, no offense but you were the last person I was expecting that from! Well actually 3rd last person...

Thanks Kretts. So you are a teacher?

Emperor
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From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 08-31-2002 18:48

krets is right - I've seen worse handed in for University-grade assignments so well done for what you've done and for the mark you got. There are technical and broader problems but I think you've had enough typography and grammar help for now. If you post it up beforehand we'll cast an eye over it.

I remember some of the assignments I handed when I was 14 and they were of a lower quality than that (although I'm still proud of my profile of Hitler for my history assignment when I was 13 - I still reckoned I lost marks for going with such a strange topic) However, my mother was an English teacher so those grammar problems were never an issue.

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kretsminky
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From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 08-31-2002 19:48

Yep Insider, I taught 8th grade science for 2 years right out of college.

synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 08-31-2002 20:28

Emps:

quote:
However, my mother was an English teacher so those grammar problems were never an issue.



Plus you're British so you're always speaking correctly hehe

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 08-31-2002 20:55

I have to agree with synax... Damn the britts being so politically correct all the time? Wheres DG?

synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 08-31-2002 21:01

Ummm, I didn't say anything about being PC... As for DG; I ate him.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 08-31-2002 21:16

InSiDeR: Its an 'inside' joke (now that is ironic ) - Synax seems to think I talk in RP (received pronunciation) all the time - folly and poppycock, of course.

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Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 09-01-2002 05:39

Poppycock... I wish I could use that word and sound cool...

Congrats on the good grade, InSiDeR. Listen to the advice here, but don't take it too hard. My contribution would be this: while there may be such a thing as a "minor project" in school, there are no "minor projects" in real life. Everything you do is going to make an impression one way or another, so you want to be sure to do the best in everything you do.

Also, schools don't provide an education. Schools provide the opportunity, but it's up to you to actually pursue that education. The fact that you went above and beyond on this project (grammar and spelling errors aside) shows that you have potential in that area. Just remember that as you go through school, and especially when you get into university. Teachers/Profs are guides, the classroom is a forum, but you have to be the driving force.




Cell 270

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 09-01-2002 06:08

poppycock... heehehee.... noice synax

Kriek
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Florida
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 09-01-2002 07:38

Insider - I wish I had people like this around when I was 15. I might have had more motivation to achieve a higher grasp of grammar and spelling. It's very embarrassing. Don't do that to yourself.

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 09-01-2002 10:19

Hmmm....well, first off, congrats are in order, kudos. A good grade is a good grade. You earned it, enjoy.

14...so long ago...over 20 years...

My projects back then...hehe...doing a program in Basic on the TRS-80 Model three...make a 'Find Treasure' game...

I guess I had a lot of luck with the High School that I went to...it was actually quite good. Too bad the school burned down.

Thanks for sharing, InSiDeR.

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