Preserved Topic: Ozonia ad astra? (Page 1 of 3)

OK I thought the following thread was interesting but once you have signed up and clicked approve a few times it seems a little limited:
www.ozoneasylum.com/Forum1/HTML/006864.html

So I proposed the following:

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The options and such like seem a little limited perhaps we should look out a free, online multiplayer game where we can play as a team - I had a scout around and found:
http://starshiptraders.com
www.astrowars.com
www.imperialconflict.com
www.faraway.co.uk/tartarus.html

but this looks interesting:
http://waronline.net/main.asp

Awfully big list:
http://directory.google.com/Top/Games/Internet/Browser_Based/Strategy/

Thoughts?

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I suppose I was looking for something we could play as a team (or teams) that didn't involve too much investment in time but could provide a diversion. After a bit of reading around I thought Starship Traders looked interesting and Rinswind suggested War Online.

So is there general interest?

Is there any specific thoughts/ideas?

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Both looks good, but I think Starship Traders looks to be the most promising. The fact that you can play Starship Traders without flash is also a big plus imo, since I can't get flash to work on the school computers

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"There are 10 kinds of people; those who know binary, those who don't and those who start counting at zero"

~changes vote to Starshiptraders~

The flash plugin is not working very well with opera or my proxy...


<edit>typo's</edit>
"Freedom of speech is by no means freedom to insult others" from the Razorart goodbye letter.

[This message has been edited by Rinswind 2th (edited 03-11-2003).]

Yes its probably worth keeping things simple and seeing how they go. In the thread above PT mentioned these too so I'll throw them in here:

BlackNova Traders

Earth 2025

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Assuming PT = LF

But I wasn't too terribly impressed with either of those, which is why I didn't bother to mention them here... They both seemed a little too simple, at least it was like that when I played last (without belonging to any teams or alliances). Granted, it took a little bit to learn, but that was the most interesting part of the game... After a couple weeks or so, it got real redundant...
However, it may be quite different teamed up with several other people. So, of those two, my vote goes to BlackNova, mainly because we could either play at the main site here , or at any one of many other sites that have it set up, which is one of the cool things about BNT, you can download the code and run it on your own server. A quick google search shows many of the places to play BNT.

But like I said, it can get pretty redundant, so I'm all for trying a new one. Starship Traders looks real similar to BNT, but with a little extra maybe...

LF: LOL - yep PT = LF (that'll teach me for trying to sneak a few posts in between TV ad breaks ). Thanks for the quick review too

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Starship Traders looks interesting, but I'm not sure how much time I would have to spend on this... how much of a time investment do you think we're looking at here? Would we all have to be online at the same time?

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Or, you might join a team and, together with your teammates, attempt to dominate a large and lucrative galaxy for your exclusive use.

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Dominate a large and lucrative galaxy. Yeah, that sounds like us.

Suho1004: I know I was looking for something that wouldn't be too time intensive and would allow us to dip in and out when it suited us. As most of these work on turns then it shouldn't require us to either be online at the same time or invest too much time - they were certainly some of my main criteria in looking at the various offerings.

I do think it was that quote which sold me too (I'm sooooooo weak ).

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FAQs: Emperor

Yea, I haven't found any of these that would require us to be on at the same time, like Emps said, they're turn-based. And with the two I mentioned, you don't really need to spend more than an hour every couple days on it. Most of the ones I looked through awhile back are like that. And once you figure it out, (when it becomes kinda redundant) you can use up three days worth of turns in about 15 minutes. So to answer your question, no, there isn't much of a time investment. You might want to sign on at least once a day or so anyways, just to make sure you haven't been completely wiped out of existence

[edit: However, for those who actually have a lot of free time or get bored or whatever, you can use your turns a little more conservatively, and play around for an hour or two or three everyday.

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Well, after playing Starship Traders for a bit now, I can say it looks kind of cool. I've already got 16 fighters, a starbase, and I own a planet so not a lot of time is needed to build up a small amount of resources.

I haven't explored any deeper than this but it looks promising. I think the hardest part is navigation since all the systems I've checked are named with a 6 digit number, but I'm slowly getting the hang of it.

We'll see where this goes.

Right well there seems to be a bit of consensus - we'll give Starship Traders a go. If we all sign up we can help each other work through the teething problems, etc.

If it is poor, time consuming, etc. we can drop it and try something else or just give this up as a bad idea.

Well I'll see you all in space then - its was high time the Asylum went intergalatic anyway!!

Pack clean underwear just in case

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

silence: Any tips?

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

OK I suppose we need to setup a few things like a radio channel. I'd suggest:

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and someone needs to setup the Ozone Federation - Silence fancy doing it?

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

I tried but you need 5000 fighters to create a team. I only have 96 atm but I'm working on it.

Slime and I are always open to fellow Asylumates for Warcraft .

I'm not sure what people want to do but it appears that when you first login you get put somewhere random. I'm not sure if there is a good or a bad place to go but perhaps it might be best if people came and found me and we went from there. I'm in the 16-30k region. We can then work on things from there.

[edit: to be more specific I'm in:

Galaxy #9, Diamond, 16000 Sectors (16001-32000), Type: 5-exit 1-Way

if that helps]

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

I have a few planets now in the upper 11k range...

And I found a nice trick... Once you get the right equipment (I think a tractor device is all you really need, but I'm not sure), you can warp/nudge trading ports to sectors with planets and use the auto-scoop, which is much more effective at making money than CompuTrade... But you have to alternate the type of port, so you don't use up all of one type of resource...

Yeah, and I found a trading port so I can now warp to other galaxies.

I'm still building up money for the tractor beam and scooping.

One thing though, it only allots you a certain time limit and mine has run out so I don't know if I have to wait until the next game day or the next real time day.

Time limit? I've only seen a 'limit' on your fuel (antimatter), which when you run out, you're done until the server resets and distributes more (I believe every hour, on the hour is what I saw).


-- Unoriginal Cell 693 --

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(Game 000) [View sector 208286] (-2 mins)

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That's what it says, but you may be right about the anti-matter. I'm pretty sure I burned at least a tonne while trading.

Well, guess I'll have to wait.

Well lets meet in 23324 which is where I have a planet and a depot which is a good way to rack up money

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

I've dropped some info into this FAQ:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/1103/

[edit: yep I hit a time limit:

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Time limit exceeded! (the new day starts at 3am system time)

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which seemed about right - I saw LF in passing and waved so if anyone fancies coming to join us they know where to find us ]

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Hmm, I haven't had any trouble with any time limit yet... But I think I figured it out... You have a limit of the number of moves you make (amount of antimatter), but you can also only be logged in for X amount of time each day, which makes sense.

I went ahead and added some to that FAQ, and am gonna try and start moving my stuff in galaxy 7 to galaxy 9.

Since there's 16000 sectors in galaxy 9, we might not be able to completely take it over within the month (this game ends in 26 days)

To keep trade open until it is time to form the Ozone Federation we should:

1. Avoid kicking the snot out of each other (I passed by LF and just waved earlier).

2. Only set our fighters to spy for now - I have nealy 500 spread around the area but it isn't worth restricting access until we are ready.

3. Don't build too many starbases - I have one at 17142 (mainly as an experiment but also as a little base where I canhole up for a while) but too many will make it tricky for us to get around.

There is also plenty of good stuff here:
http://librenix.com/?inode=1364

The 3D Windows interface looks interesting - anyone used that yet?

This site looks like a good intro:
http://up.to/sstonline.com

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

a bit off...

i can't play this game with my firewall up and i can't seem to find any info on how to get around it. anyone have any info?

Just tried to get hold on the windows interface... but it's on geocities and the page had too mucher traffic i guess.

Well i got to back to the game.

"Freedom of speech is by no means freedom to insult others" from the Razorart goodbye letter.

I tried the Windows interface and it's graphically impressive but it takes some getting used to. Although nice, I found that I had a better time playing without it since it's much easier to get information through text.

I know the guys that run
http://www.strategygames.org (run both Prom and BlackNova) http://prom.unitedrealms.com/ffa (FFA = Free For All) http://66.111.44.160/promisance/display.htm http://qmt.ath.cx

good games http://www.dopewars.com http://66.111.44.160/promisance/display.htm (Earth 2025: I know tons of guys that play this game .. one of thee more difficult games to play)


I use to beta test a lot of those play by turn games .. so if anyone needs any advice on any of them .. just leave a post here .. though I've stepped away from them .. I still recall how to play them with the right strategy

I would get involved personally but I don't have the time to put to these games anymore


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Well, I'm thoroughly confused (me like poiny-clicky )

Think I'll sit this game out.

Dufty: Yea, me too. It took some getting used to until I could find out which way was up. But I did after awhile.

The idea is almost identical to BlackNova Traders, but BNT has a lot more user-friendly setup and interface. It's just one of those, click enough things enough times, and eventually you find the pattern to what does what

I just tried the gui interface too, but I didn't care much for it either...

Dufty: It is a little frustrating to start off - although it seems like all you need to do is keep clicking you will eventually run out of AM with nothing much to show. Its best to have an aim/strategy and create a few different accounts so you can play different ones and get used to different angles. I've created 3 accounts a general one for nosing around the bit of the galaxy we are aiming at (Emperor_Ming) and so the ship is fairly general - its a Schooner with various bits, the next (Obsidian) is more trading and building fighters so we can get a team going (so it is a Freighter with some shields, lots of holds and planetary scoops and things that help there) and the third (Thantos) is trying to build as big a warship as possible (I have a Battleship with various shields and combat computers).

So don't concentrate on just clicking or you miss the point - its good for building up some money quickly but it doesn't help with the broader scheme of things if you keep this up for the long run (it'd get very dull quickly).

And definetly come over to where a lot of us are as the only reason it really makes sense is with a strategy - I suspect a more experienced team will turn up and kick our asses but it should be fun in the interim

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FAQs: Emperor

Yeah, it does get addicting after a bit.

The most important thing to do is get some cash and buy a nav computer, more holds and, I think, a nav module. That way you can do up to eight moves of autotrade and you'll be able to amass money pretty quickly. The only thing to worry about then is fuel, as AM tends to run out pretty quickly.

Like Emps, I'm building up fighters so we can start the team so first one to 5000 starts it. Also, I managed to pick up a booster and I made it to the same galaxy as everyone else so things are getting pretty fun, although, I do have to do a bit of retreating from the many starbases around. I haven't tried combat yet, but we'll see how it goes.

Ahh, my hours up so I've got more fuel. Back to furthering the plans for galactic domination.

[edit] As a quick note, I believe in one realtime day you should get about a metric tonne of AM so I'm guessing you get about a 100kg / hour. [edit]



[edit] egad! So sorry about the profile thing. I didn't know UBB didn't work there. [/edit]

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My strategy:
Getting as much free resources as possible and trade them to a or b places only.
Meaning i look for abandonded mines, ports, planets whatsoever. When you put your name on it the resources you find are free for taking. When i see intresting things i put it in my log (nothing more than a text editor running in the background..) My main base is on a planet which i dragged to a sector with a trading point. I will plunder this planet until i can do no more and will be able too build a bunker.
I also tried to fight against a group off neutral fighters and lost a fleet off almost 900 fighters (ouch) but i got lot's of 'reputation points' for it. However i just learned this actually are 'the things you lost points' So these should be low.

However after installing autoscoop, nav device, planetseeker, and a tractor beam i managed to have 1004 bots per Kg fuel. It's about making money and investing in making money. I suspect that having a lot off mines, ports and planets is also adding to the money making effect. Other people trade with my mines and ports and this gaines me some profit (or it seemes to be). And with over 40 ports and mines and 13+ (i can't check right know) planets
this should add up very well.

For everyone struggling this is a good link: http://up.to/sstonline.com
And for everyone who want's to see my base it's in sector: 30091.
<edit> my log is in the faq for you to see .
Emps: my appologies if i messed up the faq. I will fix it when needed.</edit>


"Freedom of speech is by no means freedom to insult others" from the Razorart goodbye letter.

[This message has been edited by Rinswind 2th (edited 03-13-2003).]

[This message has been edited by Rinswind 2th (edited 03-13-2003).]

Ahh, thanks for a link. That explains a lot.

Looking good everyone - if anyone of our team wants a base of operations then have 23324 [not 22085 anymore - I've finally managed to get my third chatacter into this galaxy so they are now there] (planets with depots) slap a starbase in there and you should be safe for now. Let me know and I'll remove my fighters. Hopefully in a day or so we should have ateam and all our area will open up to us and we can think about the longer strategy - moving planets, etc. and protecting the area and kicking other people out

And watch out for the swearing too - I called Michael a pussy and it booted me straight off (and it wasn't related to his trying to attack some of my fighters either) - considering the name of the character I've seen that is a bit rich

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FAQs: Emperor

Woohooo, finally I'm up just over 2000 fighters on one character
Still only around 1000 - 1500 the others.

Anyone else getting close to the 5000?

dang!!!! how are you guys doing that?! i've only got 81 and 65 i think
i never have enough fuel so i end up spending all the money i make on fuel....grrr.....

i'm staying offa that evil game til tomorrow....THEN i'll have fuel....THEN i'll have lots of fighters!!! lol i do have a pretty kick ass starbase though
it's a level 3

If you get a planetary scoop and a ship with a big hold then you can build up some money vist a planet and depot and autoscoop the planet - I made 854 in one go

Supercomputers and statistics models improve the efficiency of the scoop - I have a freighter set up to churn out fighters I only dig 2 or 3 major episodes of fighter building and am up to 1,500 so......

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Info update: http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/1103/
Plus a more efficient way of making money than just using the computrade.