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Bantam
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 11:51

Hello,

i have a prob in designing s.t. with photoshop. I tried to make a ring of lightning... if u understand this. Is there another way instead of generating and clone it around a normal ring ? Perhaps you guys can show me how to make that....
THNX Bantam <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/confused.gif">

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Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 13:42

mmmmm Well here is an thing we don't do every day.
C'mon guys let's make a circulair lightning.


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Steve
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Boston, MA, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 15:00

Two thoughts, both of which would be somewhat destructive to the lightning.

1) Polar Coordinates. That will twist it up into a circle fast, but might lose the sense of lightning in the distortion. Where the lightning is placed in the image before Polar Coords is run is critical to the outcome. You'll need to do a good bit of experimenting. Read this tutorial: http://www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorials/photoshop/polar_coords.html

2) Make several copies of the lightning (pref. agains a black background), run the shear filter, transform>rotate each layer so they gradually make up the circle, set layer blend mode to screen so hard light or something similar. If the Shear filter doesn't get it curved enough, maybe place the lightning bolts on one edge and run the spherize? The piece them together again?

How did you create the lightning? Rend did an interesting one: http://www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorials/photoshop/lightning.html

Good luck! Show us how it turns out.

Petskull
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From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 15:05

follow the gursnetwork tutorial on lightning but use a cloud filter instead of a gradient

check out something I did for a friend: http://www.geocities.com/petskull/krid2.jpg

look at the shock... you can make it more circular by playing with it a little bit...

...or maybe a circlar gradient?

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Weadah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: TipToToe
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 15:11

Don't know how you make yours, but If you make your base shapes with the pen tool, - a circlish shape, some forks here n there - then apply normal lightning type thingies, should be a cake walk.

Do then adapt the gurus lightning tut that Steve mentions above. =)

DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 15:18

See, I have to follow that Steve guy again, and tell you that he's giving you good advice.

The only addition I'd make is to say that if you're looking for a perfect ring, you want to start with a square document (height=width) and have your lightning run horizontally through the center of it before you run Polar Coordinates on it.

If you exaggerate the vertical rises compared to the horizontal runs (make the height of your iterations much higher than you'd normally do for creating your lightning) it will minimize some of the quality loss to the jaggy lightning.

Only had a second to spare this morning, but I tossed three examples together reallllly fast, just using the pencil tool, multiple layers, gaussian blurs (changing the blending modes around..screen..color dodge..etc.) and then running the Polar Coordinates filter.

Hope it helps

Peter







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DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 15:19

Wow...is that some bad transparency.

"Only had a second to spare...."

and damn does it show..~lol~

Steve
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Boston, MA, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 15:28

Blast you DG - when *I* only have a minute to spare, all I can manage is words. How do you get words *and* pictures inthe same minute?
<img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/frown.gif">

Those are really neat! Wouldn't you love to see Thor or Zeus in there getting whacked by his own lightning bolt <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

Steve
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Boston, MA, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 17:42

How 'bout

Or...

In one I made a vertical white->black gradient in a square file, ran polar coordinates and then followed Rend's tutorial.
In the other I started with a circular gradient and then the tutorial. I guess hand-work would be needed to get more branching, but it makes for a neat core effect! Good question. I enjoyed messing with it.

vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 22:36

Wow Steve.. it took me long enough to get my lowly specimen done!
Both your and DG's rock! Mine is a little sureal..(is that an excuse for crap?heh)


~Vp~

edit:added one

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Kruzr
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Modesto, CA.
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 23:09

Good afternoon all.....I tried this one using the radial blur/difference clouds/tweeked with levels/then colored with hue. Not a real circle but lightning is not really round??? Have a good one & happy Photoshopping.....

eyezaer
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From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 23:23

ooh... high energy rings!!!

nice.

someting happened to my sig...

Sloloem
Bipolar (III) Mad Scientist

From: Camillus, NY, USA
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 11-24-2000 23:30

Ho, eye!
Shocking! (Pun intended)
How'd you do that? Pen tool + waves/zigzag/ripple/OrWot?

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-25-2000 01:18

Ah... i used the paintbrush, Gblure, levels, very few small ripples, and some magic!
ooh.... i forgot,i used the WhoIs filter, the OrWot dosent quite effect the light frequencies in the right way.
Also, i used the, "make it look purdy" button... sorry guys, i made it really fast...


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Quarath
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Magna, UT
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-25-2000 10:23

Kruzr

That Rocks!!!

Bantam
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 11-27-2000 10:02

Hello the Newbie again!

U guys are just too cool. <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/cool.gif"> That helped me a lot, and i have first pics...
I would show u but i have two new probs <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">
1. How can i put a pic in here ?
2. <- This would be the harder one ... I wanted to know how to make this ring, because i want to make a ring of blank steel and overlay these with the ring of lightnings. It should be with all the effects of lights in the metall where the lightning appears above it. (Hope u guys understand me ´cause i am german and my english is .. ah .. not perfect) I have tried to find a pic in the web, which looks similar but i havent found one yet.

<img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/confused.gif"> Bantam

Metahedron
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: TriCites TN/VA
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 11-27-2000 16:02

I think Kruzr has the right idea. You need to read the lightning tutorial that says "run a black/white gradient, then run difference clouds (a few times until you get a nice circle), then mess with levels to isolate the lightning." The aforementioned gradient should be radial, from center.

Here is my transparent .gif of the effect, with colorization and some color dodge effects.

marvin
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-27-2000 16:14

<totally out of topic>
sorry bantam, I can't help you with graphics, but I saw you name... which store sold that tabac? Aldi? Kaisers?
</totally out of topic>

and for the graphics: yes, read some of the tutorials mentioned, there cool.

Steve
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Boston, MA, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-27-2000 16:49

1) Two ways, both require that the image is posted on a web server. You can just type in the URL and we can go look at it (helpful if it's big). To get it to show up on the forum page, type .

2) You want the sense of the ring of lightning ocurring above the metal? Which would imply a pretty bright light on the metal itself? I'd start with the metal as the background layer. Generate the lightning effect on a layer above the metal, using one os the suggestions above. Set this layer to something like "screen" or "color dodge", which will in effect drop out the dark part of the lightning layer and leave the lightning and its "halo" and see where that gets you.

Bantam
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 11-29-2000 12:18

Hi,

o.k. i did something by myself in photoshop and now i want u to say whats bad or could be better....
I´ll try to show u the pic...



if this would not work, u´ll see the complete adress <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">
http://www.fortunecity.de/wolkenkratzer/diamanten/799/1.gif


??? It doesnt work !! Also the link is not o.k. --> <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/confused.gif"> I need again help !!!

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mobrul
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-29-2000 17:16

don't worry, not your fault.
fortunecity is a joke. they won't let anybody link to anything on your site from somewhere else. Must go through your homepage.

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 11-29-2000 17:56

yeah, what he said. set up a quick html page with your image on it and link to that page.

warjournal
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From:
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-29-2000 19:32

Ahh! I'm too late! Some of you maniacs stole my answer! I guess that's what I get for slacking at the Asylum.

Yeah, I use a circular gradiant, difference clouds, invert, curves combo. Play as necessary in between the steps for some cool variations. This is actually one variation on Rend's tut I had been playing with while thinking about one of my tuts for GN.

Another variation I had been playing with is using it on photopgraphs. Copy the layer, desaturate, tweak, gauss around 5-8, difference clouds, invert, lightning it, set mode to screen. It's not really that useful as near as I can tell, but it can look sweet on a photo with a decent amount of contrast.

Sorry. Didn't mean to get too far off topic. I'll go back to my corner now.

[edit]
Not exactly what I was talking about above, but you can have some fun, right? Besides, I just couldn't resist. http://www.tir.com/~lhalmich/warlightning.jpg
[/edit]


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kretsminky
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From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-30-2000 02:35

ha ha Hey Warjournal!? Is that you in that pic holding the lightning rod? <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">

Bantam
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 12-10-2000 23:42

Hi Guys !
So i am back and now, i have another account, not that Fortunecity Shit ! I hope that u cam see the pic now. If u see it, how can i make it that the lighning is "mirrored" in the metal ?? After i have seen what u guys are able to do, it should be not the pro, or ??? Anyway i were pleased if someone can help me out with the lighning effects on the ring ...

Much Thnx



or http://members.tripod.de/Demiurge/pix/1.gif


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Bantam
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 12-10-2000 23:46

HI!

This sucks ! On this one i also cannot store a pic ???? SO WHERE ?? can anyone tell me ??

Bantam

Bantam
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 12-11-2000 12:01

Hi Marvin!

Thats right, if u ... ach quatsch, für dich auf deutsch. Der Name beruht noch auf der Zeit der Internetcafes, wo man so viel Kohle fürs Internet ausgeben mußte, daß man sich keinen vernünftigen Tabak kaufen konnte. Ich also vor dem Computer, die generelle Frage nach dem Nickname.. Ich mich umgeschaut. Bilenea ist scheiße, Sony will ich auch nicht heißen und dann wars das ... BANTAM....
Ja ich gebe zu, ich bin ein billiger tabak <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

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