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mikey milker
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist
From:
Insane since: Apr 2000
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posted 01-01-2001 11:03
hello.
it's mikey milker and it's 2:07a.m. on new years eve.
i'd like to finish this night of celebration by presenting my brand new design: www.zerominuszero.net
please check it out and give me some feedback, thanks a lot.
cheers.mikey.milker
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analog
Bipolar (III) Inmate
From: The State of Confusion
Insane since: Sep 2000
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posted 01-01-2001 11:57
whatever validity my judgment may have at the moment, i saw this site when i was perfectly sober and still rocked my socks off. right now it's simply awesome work. this is an enormous improvement over 1.o + 2.o, and it's apparent right off the bat.
I've loved that damn title graphic from the beginning, i'm glad to see it air.
*eternal slack0r*
analog
copious edits due to general lack of cohesiveness in regards to physical reality!
[This message has been edited by analog (edited 01-01-2001).]
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kromaZ
Bipolar (III) Inmate
From: Adanac
Insane since: Oct 2000
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posted 01-01-2001 17:38
mikey - just visited your new site and was totally blown away.
I know what I like and what I see... heh..I like.
You do have a great eye, great color sense. composition...what the hell
I'm no critic...just great work...keep it going , you are on the right path....
nurse.............
oh yea, and by the way Joseph Cornell IMHO is truly one of the best.
He has inspired me in more ways than I can count... his boxes,collage...
refreshing to see his name mentioned.
If I may name drop.. another Canadian artist, who I have followed over the years and who I think you may enjoy, is Tony Urquhart...makes incredible boxes and images . http://arts.uwaterloo.ca/FINE/tonyu/tonyu1.htm
[This message has been edited by kromaZ (edited 01-01-2001).]
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WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000
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posted 01-01-2001 17:51
It gets better every time, I like this version heads above all the rest.
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JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000
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posted 01-01-2001 19:01
What? V2.0 lasted all of 10 minutes eh? Well this one is better, they all get better. I think the thing that impresses me the most is the loading time on your designs dwindles even further per release and that's a rare and nice thing these days. This may load a *little* slower than 2.0 but compared to what you get for the wait, much faster. The inset photos are a very nice touch.
If I don't like something it's gotta be the strip down the right, but I'm not even entirely sure about that.
Cool.
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mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000
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posted 01-01-2001 23:10
Mikey, your new web site looks AWESOME! (but you already knew that, heh  )
Anyway, I have one small suggestion... Personally, I don't like very much when popup windows pop-up on different locations that depend on web browser, so my suggestion would be to make them pop-up at the center of screen.
Since showing code is much better than explaining, here's a universal JavaScript function which you can use to achieve this:
function _window(fileURL, windowName, winWidth, winHeight) {
var top = (screen.availheight - winHeight)/2;
var left = (screen.availwidth - winWidth)/2;
newWin = window.open(fileURL, windowName, "toolbar=0,location=0,directories=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=0,resizable=0,width="+winWidth+",height="+winHeight+",left="+left+",top="+top);
newWin.moveTo(left, top);
}
And simply call it like this:
<A HREF="javascript:_window('bla.html', 'myWin', 640, 480);">GO! GO! GO!</A>
Also, there's one more issue with popup windows... You've maybe noticed that when you launch popup window and after that switch back to some othe window leaving popup window open when you try to open it again by clicking on the link it won't appear on top other windows, and some poeple won't realize what's happening (they often forget to look at the taskbar). Anyway, there's a solution for this, too. Simply modify the <BODY> tag of all pages that pop-up to look something like this:
<BODY ONLOAD="this.focus()">
That should be all...
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This "Quick Tip" was brought to you by MAX Interactive corp.
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Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist
From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000
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posted 01-01-2001 23:56
I like it; simple and pleasing to the eye.
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bunchapixels
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted
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posted 01-02-2001 00:40
dammit mikey, cant you put some shitty design aspects in there so we can be ruthless with you, and get some of our own back?
let us vent a little, could you?
bastard.
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mikey milker
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist
From:
Insane since: Apr 2000
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posted 01-02-2001 20:36
thanks for the response everyone... between what i've read here and a few e-mails, i guess i pulled this design off somewhat decently.
analog: you realize you don't have to consume that many drugs, right?
kromaz: thanks a lot for the kind words, that means a lot coming from you considering how much i enjoy your work. i was introduced to joseph cornell a while ago and must say he as inspired some of my pieces greatly, i've got some new stuff sketched out i'd like to work on and a lot of it borrows from his technique. i'll go check out urquhart right now, thanks for the link.
warmage: thank you, thank you.
jk: 2.0 was arse, ugh. when you go to your site everyday and hate it, kind of inspires you to do something new. anyways it's over and i can finally relax, the past month has been a little stressful thanks to coming up with a replacement for 2.0.
max: thanks a lot for the code, i'm not too worried about where the windows appear.. but i'm definitely going to play with that onload=this.focus trick later on tomorrow when i get some time. actually i'll probably mess with where the windows appear too, hehe thanks.
slime: yeehaw thanks.
buncha: i'm sorry i didn't make this design suck enough.. maybe you could just resort to character insults instead? i've got plenty of faults there =)
thanks again everyone...
cheers.mikey.milker
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twItch^
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: the west wing
Insane since: Aug 2000
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posted 01-02-2001 20:40
:: cough ::
though i have nothing but respect for everything that went into this design...and i agree with absolutely everything stated above....i long for variety in the design; as i drill deeper, i feel there should be some form of visual cue that i am, indeed, drilling deeper....color change? side-bar change? something change? please? mayhap i'm being picky. i love the design, though...i just want more from it.
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mikey milker
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist
From:
Insane since: Apr 2000
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posted 01-02-2001 21:28
jumpin jesus on a pogo stick, finally!
though i'm disappointed i received such a short critique from you twitch (i was just hoping i'd get an especially delightful one while you were having a nicotine fit), you did hit on one of the things that i've considered myself. the original intent was for every page to have a different scrolling side bar, but the skulls worked out rather well and i never came up with 3 other side-bars that were as comparable.
i plan on tweaking this design as time goes on and adding more variety to the different sections is one goal.
then again, the main "market" of my site, once again, is for the people who read my journal.. it's working well now and i'm not going to mess with the new formula too much.
::cough:: oh yeah, waiting for your site.. i mean sheesh, you hyped it for so long that it's a little disappointing that it's not here.
cheers.mikey.milker
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kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000
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posted 01-03-2001 00:33
I really like that new site too mikey. I wasn't too fond of all the black on the old site. Looks great now.
Makes me want to give myself a kick in the ass and finish my redesign.
Nice!
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Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000
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posted 01-03-2001 04:38
It looks pretty good Mikey. I like the use of the drop shadow and how you positioned the buildings and etc. The color scheme is nice. The buttons also look nice. Im having a hard time making out what that is underneath the sun like object but besides that your use of everything is good. Very few sections. I'd like to see more but its your call. The graphic to the right of the text is somewhat annoying. Interesting how you name your computers.
Enuff credit ... FUCK YOU  Just thought I'd add that in ...
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bunchapixels
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted
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posted 01-03-2001 23:51
quote:
buncha: i'm sorry i didn't make this design suck enough.. maybe you could just resort to character insults instead? i've got plenty of faults there =)
ok, i got one!
i just re-read your first post...
quote:
it's mikey milker and it's 2:07a.m. on new years eve.
GET A LIFE MIKEY!
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nt
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted
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posted 01-04-2001 14:03
Cool Mikey!
I really REALLY like your pages new layout!
It rocks... it ROCKS HARD MAN!
I definitely like the top image collage.
Quite clean but still stylish!
Only thing that bothers (just my opinion) are the drop shadows...
Keep it up!!!
-Time is always against me-
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Metahedron
Paranoid (IV) Inmate
From: TriCites TN/VA
Insane since: Sep 2000
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posted 01-04-2001 15:15
Well, since you seem to be begging for something other than (obviously unrequired) ego-fueling, here I go.
I have two compliments and then I'll get to the good stuff. Well done picture insets. I like the big orange thing at the top.
The layout of this site SUCKS! Why can't designers get a clue and start eliminating dead space? You have enough content to expand your site to 100% width - if not, then you can afford to be "creative" and demonstrate some interesting visuals as filler - I really have no interest in looking at all that blue background. Wee.
Where's the Flash? You can't tell me that with all that studio equipment and "I'm a badass showing off my skillz" attitude that you don't at LEAST have a Flash intro?
And DAMN, you call this content:
"for cereal around this place i'm usually limited to total raisin bran and some tree-hugger shredded wheat stuff. i usually don't mind eating the raisin bran stuff since it's better than the chunky wheat pucks, but tonight i was shocked to discover a box of total honey and brown sugar flakes. "
WAAaahaha. Give me a break! If you're going to write a journal online, MAKE UP STUFF! At least make your life *seem* interesting.
I swear, the only reason people here like your site is because they are addicted to orange.
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twItch^
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: the west wing
Insane since: Aug 2000
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posted 01-04-2001 16:17
yeah...and milker, you're fat.
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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000
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posted 01-04-2001 17:34
hm. I didn't know you were fat! sheesh, maybe your eating too much of that raisin bran....
Anyway, sorry to say that I also like it mikey.
The design is spectacular in my opinion...very clean, very crisp....the space is well layed out, broken up just the way it should be (and happens to look the same at low or high resolutions unlike things spec'd at 100% width).
Vibrant colors, lot's of attention to details.
Like twitch said, a little variety on the inside wouldn't hurt, but it sure is nice to look at.
Gotta agree that I really am not interested in the contents of your cupboards.....but then again that would mean that I'm not your target audience, so who cares if I'm interested...right?
Meta -- flash intros usually do little other than waste bandwidth (IMHO of course).
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mikey milker
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist
From:
Insane since: Apr 2000
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posted 01-04-2001 21:52
oh fuck all, i just wrote replies to everyone and i fucking erased it.. bollocks!!!
krets: new designs are always a good thing, hit it up man. except they make you cranky and in the end almost seem pointless, but maybe that's just me.
jestah: thanks a lot, and a big 'fuck you' to you too!
buncha: 2:07am, right? well considering i was out from 6pm - 2am (which translates into 8 hours of partying for those of you out there that are a little slow) is more than enough of a life for me. i just don't take the right drugs to pull 16 hour stints anymore, oh well.
meta: you're funny... you're the only person silly enough to wish the content was fully expanded out. maybe you like 100% width that makes everything typically look like shit, but us "designers without a clue" actually like things that remain visually appealing no matter what computer is being used by a viewer. flash? flash is what shitty designers rely on, thank you drive through--perhaps 5% (and that's being generous) of the flash i've seen on the web is actually worth having on a site. as for the journal, well you read it sucker... and with 30-40+ different people reading the journal daily, i'm not too worried what you think.
twitch: i may be fat but at least i have a web site instead of a bunch of sorry-ass excuses, you tosser.
dl: yeah i know the content is a little lacking right now, that's something that will be added over time.. front page w/ icons is going to be reworked, i'll probably change up graphic sidebars once i can make 3 more solid ones, yadadada. as for content, well yeah.. you probably don't fall in the target audience of girls age 17-22, haha.. or something like that, right.
i'm going to go puke phlegm now, thank you come again.
cheers.mikey.milker
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bunchapixels
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted
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posted 01-04-2001 23:03
nup, this seriously sucks.
not the site, that design still blows me away.
but mikey - for shit's sake, how the hell can he flame people so much when its HIS BLOODY SITE that's under review?
i take my hat off to you.
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Metahedron
Paranoid (IV) Inmate
From: TriCites TN/VA
Insane since: Sep 2000
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posted 01-04-2001 23:38
Bah - yer an ego bomb who thinks he's a badass artist but actually you're a little kid with a lot of hope resting on nothing really solid. No worries, Mikey! You'll have a nice, thundersome wakeup call. May you survive it and become the artist you think you are now! 30 people read your journal? Hee haw! Yeah, and I was one of them. Woops! Sorry for looking at your site before reviewing it. Ya wank!
As for all you 100% people, you are really clinging to the easy way out. It is REALLY FRIGGIN HARD to design a site at 100% that looks decent at 800x600 and 1024x768 both. But guess what! Flash is vector graphics! Wow! What's that? you mean all the content grows to fill the screen? Neato idea. Ok, you're right about the Flash intro - mostly useless. But as a design tool, it is so far beyond HTML in creative power and bandwidth efficiency that you can't deny it's presence.
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kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 00:14
Meta sounds like you should take some of your own advice. I looked at some of the sites you have designed and well, they mostly look designed for small rez. However, if you call putting a tiling background on there and watching it expand to fill an entire screen... more power to you.
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mikey milker
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist
From:
Insane since: Apr 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 00:23
buncha: i try my hardest, i'm just having fun though hehe. sure i asked for criticism, but that also doesn't mean i'm not allowed to challenge such remarks if i don't agree with them. plus it's fun to fuck with people over the internet when you're sick and can't go outside to play =D
meta: no really, i'm sorry if you think people are taking the easy way out by designing a nice looking site that looks exactly the same in all resolutions; but fuck it, the site looks good on my 1600x1200, or my friends 800x600. i'm having trouble following any sort of point you were trying to make though, yes we all know that flash is vector graphics... and? i'm glad you think i'm an ego bomb waiting to go off, but from where i'm sitting i'm doing just fine, thanks for the concern. and finally, if you're sorry enough that you have to rely on flash to make up for your lack of creativity when using html.. well that's your problem, don't make it mine.
cheers.mikey.milker
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mikey milker
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist
From:
Insane since: Apr 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 00:25
krets: there's no need to be rude now.. i was going to bring up how delightful meta's own designs are, but i figured i'd try and avoid the whole pissing contest. it's not his fault he's even more sorry at web design than the egotistical kid he's having so much fun criticizing.
cheers.mikey.milker
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twItch^
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: the west wing
Insane since: Aug 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 00:47
i'll just be over here...
:::
:::
...saying that all of you are fat.
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bunchapixels
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted
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posted 01-05-2001 00:50
you can talk, chubby boy.
<edit> watch out fellas, this folder could catch alight any second now...<edit>
[This message has been edited by bunchapixels (edited 01-05-2001).]
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kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 01:10
I don't know about ya'll....
I'm big boned
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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 02:47
I've got a glandular disorder.....I swear!
....
and I swear I heard someone in another thread a ways back saying something about a "pointless flame" but I just can't quite recall how that was.........??
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JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 05:21
Mikey, did you work at a Fish-n-Chips drive through in Great Britain in a previous life?
edit: Oh yeah, I'm fat as hell and I'm not gonna take it any more!
[This message has been edited by JKMabry (edited 01-05-2001).]
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rotren
Bipolar (III) Inmate
From: Camrose, Alberta, Canada, Hörnefors, Västerbotten, Sweden
Insane since: Jun 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 05:42
Nice, Mikey. Nice and simple, and the drop shadows does make a classy touch. That blue background is a good choice (I am actually using almost the same blue background color for my new site...hehe). What I don't like are those pop-ups. They make me feel like I have lost control. One or two is all I can handle. Your copyright notice text at the bottom, I think it would be better with a lighter color, like gray of some shade. I found it hard on the eyes. What else, well I like the orangeish themed graphics, bet you used adjustment layers there, huh? You have made a pleasing site, I like your style.
Rotren
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ZOX
Bipolar (III) Inmate
From: Southern Alabama, USA
Insane since: Sep 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 07:56
Not exactly my style, I guess, but I think it looks good.
I love the four little orange sqares in the bottom right corner!
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Metahedron
Paranoid (IV) Inmate
From: TriCites TN/VA
Insane since: Sep 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 15:22
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twItch^
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist
From: the west wing
Insane since: Aug 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 15:55
what an ignorant claim, my friend.
::: milker's site is basically a blog. that being said, FLASH DOES NOT CONSTRUE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF TEXT
::: if you're browsing at 1600x1200, you represent yourself, and 2% of the rest of the browsing public. while i browse at 1600x1200, i set my windows to 800x600 or less. why? because NO ONE DESIGNS FOR 1600X1200.
::: look, don't attack something that you know absolutely nothing about.
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Maa
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate
From: Sweden
Insane since: Apr 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 18:21
Hi mikey milker,
Your new design looks teriffic !!! It's very well done all over - GREAT work
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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 20:39
who the hell would browse with a browser window at 1200x1600 anyway?
I stopped by the void, after waiting through the completely useless flash intro, spent 5 minutes waiting for the flash content inside to load......just to have another thing that I had to click on to actually accomplish anything....at which point I had various other things I could click that would take me........where? beats me....I didn't stick around to find out.
So if overdramatic slow loading poorly navigated flash sites are what you are saying is the superior route with web design.....I think I'll stick with sites that load relatively quickly, are layed out in a visually pleasing manner that is easy to navigate, and don't bog down my processor. Hey, kind of like mikey's site! 
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kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 20:50
Exactly DL! I think the point of large resolutions is to be able to have several windows open at once. Especially 1600x1200. If you are viewing webpages in a maximized window at that rez then you have problems my friend.
I have DSL now but back in the old days too much Flash would just make me leave. I mean, its all been done as far as Flash goes right now so what is the point of waiting for some 250K Flash amination to load if all it is is a bunch of text flying around the screen in an uncreative, unorganized way? If its good Flash like at rustedfaith then thats another story.
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the ROY
Paranoid (IV) Inmate
From: Ft. Worth, Texas
Insane since: Sep 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 22:06
site ROCKS milker. enuf said.
peace
-amy
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DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...
From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994
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posted 01-06-2001 13:13
Heh, I have I even posted on this thread yet? Don't think so. I *did* stumble across Mikey's site while browsing the memberlist, and was so excited and happy I sent him a fan mail like RIGHT AWAY! Rocking site, truly. Neat, clean, (orange! , it was everything I like in a site. Concerning the 1200x1600 question, no offense, but who buys super expensive computer and graphic card and then runs their browser at 1200x1600? Maximized windows are for clueless clients who can't deal with the thought of several applications running at once, IM(NS)HO. (Try looking at the OZONE site for instance! I had someone point this out to me but still decided to ignore the problem. Too much, too weird!) As usual, YMMV, heh heh.
Your pal, -doc-
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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate
From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000
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posted 01-06-2001 19:43
Closing this just cause it's too damn long. Look for the continuation.
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