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warjournal
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posted posted 02-20-2002 20:29

I came across this today:

quote:
"As the german magazine Spiegel reports, scientists at the Fraunhofer Institute for Ceramic Technologies have developed a transparent tile made from aluminium oxide pellets baked at 1200°C. The material is very hard, and could be used as bulletproof windows."


I haven't seen anything else just yet, but I will certainly keep my eyes open.


Wangenstein
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From: The year 1881
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posted posted 02-20-2002 23:20

Hey, WJ, thanks for posting stuff like this. I love it!



There are a lot of strange people in the world. I should know; I'm three of them...

eyezaer
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posted posted 02-20-2002 23:43

This is like the news room of the asylum!

Ha! I knew startrek was not that far off!

Bugimus
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From: New California
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posted posted 02-21-2002 02:04

Yes, Star Trek IV was the first thing that came to my mind as well

~Bugs crawls away quickly as the geekAlarm sounds~

Perfect Thunder
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posted posted 02-21-2002 02:43

First MP3s, then transparent aluminum! What will Fraunhofer think of next? Clear Pepsi?

eyezaer
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posted posted 02-21-2002 03:19

In mi bood that is *the* best startrek movie! No shame here!

InSiDeR
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posted posted 02-21-2002 03:51

Yea startrek just happens to come to me first too

warjournal
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posted posted 02-21-2002 04:12

Yeap. My own little newsroom. Not sure why, but I do prefer making such post in this forum.

Not much in my search. So far just that aluminum oxide *should* be transparent and some guy that said, "I'm sure you've heard that transparent aluminum has been done." Probably a week or two for real confirmation in big media. Maybe longer. Hard to say.

If any of you mooks hear anything, post it.


NoJive
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From: The Land of one Headlight on.
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posted posted 02-21-2002 17:02

Don't know how to get deeper into this but it looks interesting

"* Fabrication of Transparent Aluminum Oxynitride by Pressureless Sintering"

http://workpage.best.vwh.net/ee/58/079e.htm

I'm still looking. If I find more I'll post them

Closer for sure

http://www.cheresources.com/transmetalzz.shtml

Let me know if there's anything in this one.... I hate pdf's can never seem to get them to work...no matter what version.

http://www.mri.psu.edu/centers/mpec/publications.pdf

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warjournal
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posted posted 02-22-2002 00:24

http://www.spiegel.de

Apparently the article is in there somewhere. However, I don't speak "DE" and I'm not sure if I have the patience to use Babel to hunt it down.

Somebody give a hand with this?

Thanks for the effort, NoJive.


warjournal
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posted posted 02-22-2002 00:40

Article DE-babelized.

Damn.

edit: Apparently Babel isn't fond of links like that. Run this through Babel.

edit2: Whoa. Something major weird is going on.




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warjournal
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posted posted 02-22-2002 01:09

Ahhh! I'm going nuts.

http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,183008,00.html

http://babelfish.altavista.com


Skaarjj
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posted posted 02-22-2002 01:28

What...you mean you weren't already?

Wangenstein
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From: The year 1881
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posted posted 02-22-2002 01:41

I told my co-worker about this (she loves hearing about this kinda thing, too). The first thing she did was to pick up her mouse and say, "Hello, computer."

Arthemis
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posted posted 02-22-2002 05:02

sorry to bring this on you warjournal... but this isnt "new" at all.

warjournal
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posted posted 02-22-2002 05:11

Oh, yeah? Define "new" damn it!

Actually, I'm not sure when this was done. In my second post I mention a guy that has known about this for some time and he apparently thinks that it has spread to the 4 corners.

Any info you have, Arthemis, is more than welcome. Like when you heard about it and where from. Whatever you are wiling to give up.

The one thing about this that really kind of gets me is that all potential applications that I've heard about are military. How sad is that? :sigh:


Wangenstein
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From: The year 1881
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posted posted 02-22-2002 05:16

Military? What about invisible soda cans?

<HOMER> Mmmm... Invisible cola... </HOMER>

Arthemis
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From: Milky Way
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posted posted 02-22-2002 22:18

Dont you remember? little arthemis is into atoms

I could scan some scientific articles on this for you...but it's in french and i'm not in the mood for scanning right now

I think you should be more interested in some amazing stuff.....hmmm let me think
Did you know they are finally managing to reduce lights velocity to almost zero?
Now *that* is something

bigyou
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From: Quebec, Canada
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posted posted 02-23-2002 15:52

ive seen something about this once on tv ... its a great thing those bullet proof windows, but its going to be a problem for fire fighters and policemen ... if these guys have to rescue someone in an on fire building then ... ouch !!!

cant break the window ...

¨...the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.¨

warjournal
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posted posted 02-23-2002 16:38

Arthemis, a date or two would be fine. You've really gotten me interested in the whens of transparent alumininum.


Arthemis
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From: Milky Way
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posted posted 02-25-2002 03:10

i couldnt find the magazine, warjournal.
but... i do remember one of my teachers talking about this as a thing that was in final stage of research (in science that means that it's been around for at least a decade or two) around october 2000

I wish outer-space men could conquer the Earth and make pets of the human race, because I'd really like to have one of those little bed with my name on it.

Bmud
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From: Raleigh, NC
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posted posted 03-13-2002 04:02

Perfect Thunder, i quoted you on saying "First MP3s, then transparent aluminum! What will Fraunhofer think of next? Clear Pepsi?" to a friend of mine, which (typical of him) sparked a rampaging search digging up this article: http://www.sci-fighter.com/news/newsfeb02/feb25weird.php3

What i gathered, er.. interpreted is that 'transparent aluminum' is brittle but hard. I'm not even sure if they were saying it exists..

Wes
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posted posted 03-15-2002 05:17

I never understood how Scotty could type so fast when he had probably never used a keyboard in his life.


vogonpoet
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posted posted 03-15-2002 05:25

Bigyou: if the transparent aluminium has the same material properties as regular aluminium, then one would theorise that the amount of it needed (as in its thickness) to replace a standard glass window, would be alot thinner, thus , it being very thin, firemen/police men could carry can openers with them!

huh?



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Bugimus
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posted posted 03-15-2002 16:32

Ah yes, the old "can opener of life"

Wes, you're not allowed to ask questions like that about Scotty. It's a tad amount shy of sacrilege!!!

Skaarjj
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posted posted 03-18-2002 02:22

His line 'A keyboard...how quaint' says to me that he has, but considers them to be second class to an algorithm input system, or whatever it is they use...

but...anyhoo

Wangenstein
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From: The year 1881
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posted posted 03-18-2002 20:30

Don't tell me that, by that time, Humanity hasn't developed anything beyond the QWERTY keyboard?!? Future generations should not have to suffer so!

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