Topic awaiting preservation: How do you make blood no smell? (Page 1 of 2)

'cause I was thinking using it as a media in Art. But I don't want the smell of it after a few days. So what should I put in it so it doesn't smell?

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Please tell me you are not going to cut yourself.

No...I was thinking of actually BUYING pig's blood from the butcher.

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I don't think dried blood smells... so as long as you don't apply it too thick and make sure it dries quickly maybe it will be OK. That would be a total guess, though. I really haven't smeared blood on surfaces much since my animal sacrifice days, and back then we didn't stick around to see if it smelled.

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Once it's dry it should not smell at all (unless you really rub your nose in it)

Anyway you'd need to fixate it with some kind of varnish or spray once it's dry. (considering it's water soluable even after it's dried)

Yep you will have to fix it as Nimraw suggests or it will start going off and attracting flies and that won't make you many friends.

A better bet might be to make some fake blood - I know quite a few good recipes.

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if I went 'round saying I was an Emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

that's interesting yannah .. doesn't blood dry black-ish? are you going to try and keep it red? are you using it with any other media? would you mix it with something to affect it's texture? like gesso?

i've seen paintings created with human feces. the blood thing should be a picnic compared to that...

Or you can use a hairdryer on it to dry it. This has an effect very much along the lines of drycleaning, which bakes in the blood. it's no longer water soluable after that, but it dries an ochre red rather than black that way. But yes, blood, when it dries normally, turns black, and you'll need to use an enamel varish or fixitive on it afterwards. Blood and empasto would be... interesting, to say the least.


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(Edited by Skaarjj on 04-15-2005 17:35)

What would that recipe be Emperor?...and thanks for all the inputs.

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Red food dye, corn syrup and smooth peanut butter I believe is one of the more popular ones.


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What would that recipe be Emperor?...and thanks for all the inputs.

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It would depend on what you are making it for but these come highly recommended by a guy I know who does special effects/makeup:

http://www.shades-of-night.com/painneck/blood.html

The green and blue food colouring is to take the pinky edge off the red food colouring (which is further exageratte when added to corn syrup).

If it is going on someone then add a dash of liquid soap (but avoid getting it in orifices).

And let us know how it goes.

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if I went 'round saying I was an Emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

most bizzare post ever.



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Just a thought here, but wouldn't using fake blood kind of defeat the purpose? Of course, I don't exactly know what your purpose is here, but most artists generally use unconventional media to make some sort of statement. Fake blood would make a much different statement, I think, than real blood. Unless, of course, that's the intention--but from your original post, I'm guessing it's not.

Just some food for thought...

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I remember seeing on some TV program this artist that used his own blood to paint portraits. I don't recall if they were all that great, but he sure was a weird dude...

There's an artist called Andres Serrano who does this. He's the guy who did the infamous piss christ image.

In fact the cover of Metallica's Load album is "Semen and Blood III" by Serrano.



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I don't think I could slit myself just to make an artwork I wouldn't want to scare my mom...once I did some artworks that has pictures that portrays that sort of doings and my mom was about to collapse when she saw the food colorings on my wrist and the sink...

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(Edited by Yannah on 04-19-2005 06:13)

Thanks BD , I could have gone my whole life without that piece of information.

Going to go puke now...and then google Serrano.

Hey Emps is it okay if I use Glucose syrup instead of Corn Syrup 'cause I couldn't find any...and the container of the Glucose syrup says its derived from corn...so?

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OK, see, if you're just going to start mixing up fake blood, why the hell not just use red paint?

Besides, I think your syrup solution is going to eventually attract a colony of ants who are apt to walk off with the painting.

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OK, see, if you're just going to start mixing up fake blood, why the hell not just use red paint?

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Yes, exactly. This was the point I was trying to make earlier. Unless you're deliberately trying to make a statement by using fake blood (for example, you could paint a very gruesome picture using fake blood to show how we are desensitized to violence by the media--I just made that up, so don't slam me for it), you'd probably be better served by mixing up a paint that approximates the color of blood.

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errrm.... yeahh.... go with the pigs blood, and then spray the final product with something to seal it. dont mess with that fake blood silliness!

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Unless you're deliberately trying to make a statement by using fake blood ...

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But is corn syrup that looks like blood any different than paint that looks like blood? How would corn syrup be more symbolic of blood than paint? How would the statement differ?

I say you're better off with paint if just for the simple fact that corn syrup won't set -- it will only leave you with a sticky mess. Leave the corn-syrup blood for B-grade slasher movies.



(Edited by Wes on 04-23-2005 09:26)

I'll admit it, I was reaching there. But I bet you somewhere there's an artist who could argue for the use of fake blood over paint that looks like blood.

I however, am not such an artist, so you don't really have an argument from me.

Me, I would draw my own blood and splatter it on the canvas...

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I'll admit it, I was reaching there. But I bet you somewhere
there's an artist who could argue for the use of fake blood over paint
that looks like blood.

I however, am not such an artist, so you don't really have an argument from me.

Me, I would draw my own blood and splatter it on the canvas...

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Personally I'd draw someone else's and splatter it on the canvas - you can be more liberal with it without the woozy light headed feel (and if you are aiming for that too - tequila and/or standing on your head is a good substitute or is fake giddiness from blood loss not on too?).

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if I went 'round saying I was an Emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

Huh?

I think...

Hmmm, what do I think? I think, this place has taken a strange twist. Blood? Blood indeed. As an art medium it seems quite a challenge especially with all the bug issues.

Would flies lay maggots in the blood? Would the squirming, evolving maggots become a sort of living art? I think if one uses blood, some sort of flesh should be used as well. None of that synthetic crap either. That would just be garish whorism to the plasticene existence of our techno-media culture.

Real Blood!

Ooh! Menstrual Blood! That is apparently in great supply... 51% and all... perhaps you could set up a bake sale at the local school and women could trade their menstrual blood for cookies and cake...

Hmmm, this gives me an idea!


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Webbing; the stuff that sticks to your face.

I believe an artist already did that Unknown Comic and I'm not copying that idea...

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Kill all artists and use their blood... this has to main effects,

1) your art will be very exclusive
2) you could threathen critics to be used as art as well

on other words you would be remembered for the next 200 years or so...



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yeah and I'd end up in prison...die in prison and my work would cost like billions...good idea Rindswith.

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Yannah: Just out of curiosity... what exactly is it that you're planning to do? I don't think you ever mentioned that...

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Another idea to mask the smell is to make a second piece to go with it -poo on a canvas and spread it around with a stick and hang them together and no one will notice the smell of the blood and it will probably not be attacked by flies as much!!!!

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Yannah: Just out of curiosity... what exactly is it that you're planning to do? I don't think you ever mentioned that...

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Oooooooo good question!!

Always thinking - I'm glad one of us is

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if I went 'round saying I was an Emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

Funny you should ask me that...to be honest, I'm not quite sure yet whether I should do it on a canvas or a sort of sculpture piece...

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to be honest, I'm not quite sure yet whether I should do it on a canvas or a sort of sculpture piece...

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Right... but what is the "it" here? I mean, medium aside, what is it that you want to create?

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Something that would reflect my religion, which is btw what my concept is going to be.

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So basically you've figured you want to do something with blood, to do with your religion, on an unknown backing medium... you'll need to think more about what you're going to do before you decide on real or fake blood


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Yannah: OK, so what you're saying is you don't really know what you're trying to do yet? If that is the case, yes, you should definitely think about what exactly you want to do before you decide on medium and materials.

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I would say that using real pig's blood on canvas or some sort of paper (either wood-ish or cott-ish alike) would be the best effect for a blood medium. Why not? If you're worried about it attractig maggots, try hair spray (on the front and back).

But hey, if it's a sculpture, I dunno.. What the heck are you going to make the sculpture out of...? Meat? Blown glass? Your own bellybutton lint?

I agree with Suho. Decide what you really want. I would totally go for the meat sculpture. Just don't get mad when we find you, and throw you a mysteriously tasty barbeque party in a seperate location completely unrelated to the missing sculpture!

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I guess I'm doing it on a canvas since it's more easier to do. I was thinking of making a chalice or finding something that looks like one then glue it on the canvas...

I'll tell you later when I really have decided what my piece is gonna look like...

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It turned out I may not be allowed to use pig's blood after all because of that safety thing...

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I made some fake blood and my teacher said that it looks disgusting.

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Sounds like it got the desired effect!