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Dr T E Ozone
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 05-16-2003 10:24

Alone

[Edit : reduced the 'size' to a link...WebShaman]

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So what if I am clinicly insane, Does that mean I am a danger to what is known as socieity? Wait it does...

Regards,
Thaadeous Edward Ozone

[This message has been edited by WebShaman (edited 05-16-2003).]

Wakkos
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Azylum's Secret Lab
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 05-16-2003 10:29

I was thinking on making a Sandwich....

Iberic Jam maybe?

velvetrose
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: overlooking the bay
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 05-16-2003 11:14

not sure what you are asking for... is this the opening page of a website? or do you
want comments on the image? ??

[edit- btw, a link to such a large image would be appreciated by those of us with
modems...

[This message has been edited by velvetrose (edited 05-16-2003).]

mahjqa
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: The Demented Side of the Fence
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-16-2003 11:15

I don't think much.

Oh, and remember, since you've asked everyone's opinions, you're sure to get some responses you won't like.

Assuming the person in the photograph is you...
I for one, was planning on telling you that you seem quite the attentionwhore. You may think of yourself as standing out, but truth is, you're hardly the first who's tried this kind of style (both in clothing as in bad gothic statements) and you're not likely to be the last. I get somewhat bored by people telling others they're different, while they all try so desperately to stand out that they all look the same to me.

The image hasn't got much artistical merit. You got the 'alone' part down. The rest is an oversized, mostly white image with some canned effects and a standard, gothic, angsty line. Bravo.

You might retort to that that I'm a closedminded moron. If that's your opinion, ok. But this one is mine.



WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-16-2003 11:28

Hey, spread the wealth, wakky! A sandwich sounds good...what is iberic jam?

binary
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Under the Bridge
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 05-16-2003 11:28

mahjqa :- calm down dude...the fact that u not having a good day..doesnt give u the right to let it out on everyone else



[This message has been edited by binary (edited 05-16-2003).]

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-16-2003 11:32

^^

I wasn't aware that I am having a bad day...or did you mean someone else?

mahjqa
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: The Demented Side of the Fence
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-16-2003 11:39

Okay. To compensate; some things I think that could be improved you your image;

The photo itself could use a little more contrast. an easy way to fix this would be the levels dialog, click [image>adjust>levels] or press CTRL-L. move the black triangle to the right and the white triangle to the left to make your photograph a bit clearer. to do things simply, click on the black eyedropper, and click on a black part in your image. this will then turn into 100% black. Same goes for white. For even better results, read the Curves tutorial by steve, at the Guru's network.

Also, if this image is for web use, it could do with a litle resizing. No vital details will be lost, and if you still want the picture of yourself to be big, you'll need to do something with the white space around the picture.

And for some personal things; try to be yourself instead of some artificial image.

Oh, I'm not having a bad day... I'm just pulling a Milker here.



[This message has been edited by mahjqa (edited 05-16-2003).]

Wakkos
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Azylum's Secret Lab
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 05-16-2003 12:06

Can I spread that Milker on my sandwich?

Iberic Jam = "Jamón Serrano"
Dunno in english....

Edit: Could be Ham instead of Jam???



[This message has been edited by Wakkos (edited 05-16-2003).]

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-16-2003 12:58

Iberic Ham??

Does it taste like chicken? Give me some!!

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 05-16-2003 14:00

I think a sandwich would be good. Some nice cheese would be nice too

binary: What gave you the impression mahjqa wasn't calm - his comments are spot on (I was going to make similar ones just not as well as he did).

___________________
Emps

FAQs: Emperor

binary
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Under the Bridge
Insane since: Nov 2002

posted posted 05-16-2003 14:06

Emperor:- the mahjqa who posted the first post is not the same mahjqa who posted the second.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 05-16-2003 14:37

NURSE!!!!!!!!!

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-16-2003 14:47

alight first Wakkos is Jeni and now we have two mahqja's. Wooo! This is a C R A Z Y place. I think I might have one of those sadwiches too, some cheese. hmmm . . . stone wheat crackers . . . Anyone have a bottle opener for my beer?

eigh, Dr.TEOzone, you may get better response in the Photography forum. But keep this thread open, I'm hungry

Later,

C:\


~Binary is best~

velvetrose
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: overlooking the bay
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 05-16-2003 15:21

Thaadeous is a she?

pink
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: wales
Insane since: Mar 2003

posted posted 05-16-2003 16:18

ummmmm why do i get that feeling that Dr T E Ozone is not ......liked much?
Oh wait sorry...... its just your natural selfs. sorry my mistake

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 05-16-2003 16:24

personally I'm still waiting to hear what it is that DTE wants, and what the intention of the image is. Then we can discuss it's merits (or lack thereof).

Mahjqa certainly did not say anything out of reason, and was not particularly harsh. A little coarse? Sure. But like he said - dte asked what we thought...

And now I'm getting hungry....


mahjqa
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: The Demented Side of the Fence
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-16-2003 16:41

binary; I'm the same mahjqa as I've always been. Most of the time, if not always, my comments are helpful, describing minutely what's wrong and how to fix it. The second post would be a perfect example of that. Sometimes I just feel the need to state my personal opinion. What I referred to as 'pulling a Milker' is a post written in the style of the (in)famous Mikey Milker, a person who didn't (and doesn't) give a fuck about what anyone thought of him, and just posted his blunt opinion. It just happens to me that most of the time I keep my opinions to myself, that's why you don't see me often on the philosophy forums.

So, that's why the posts seemed to be written by different persons.



[This message has been edited by mahjqa (edited 05-16-2003).]

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 05-16-2003 18:22

Yeah mikey was the house bastard.... a bad one but ours hehe.
Now lets take a look at the picture.
<edit> And i have no comments whatsoever </edit>

__________________________________________
"Art has to be forgotten. Beauty must be realized."
Piet Mondriaan

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Veneficuz
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: A graveyard of dreams
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-16-2003 18:44

A funny thing about the Goth culture (at least here in Norway) is that everyone is supposed to be special and unqiue, but they have to be special and unique just like all the other Goths. If you are special in a different way, yet still within the limits of what most non-Goths would call Goth, you're not 'a real Goth'

A Sandwich sounds nice. Got anyone left?

_________________________
"There are 10 kinds of people; those who know binary, those who don't and those who start counting at zero"

[This message has been edited by Veneficuz (edited 05-16-2003).]

GrythusDraconis
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Astral Plane
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 05-16-2003 19:35
quote:
ummmmm why do i get that feeling that Dr T E Ozone is not ......liked much?
Oh wait sorry...... its just your natural selfs. sorry my mistake


Because DTE hasn't asked a question that makes answering with any intelligence feasible. Not to mention that they/she is using the namesake of the one and only 'Doc Ozone' within his own creation, to boot. Beyond that, if there was some more direction as to the information that DTE was looking for things might not seem so harsh because we would be able to offer some actual review. As far as it's first blush goes... I like. For a web page application it is an awfully HUGE graphic.

And insulting an entire community of people isn't likely to improve your station in life. At the best it will only make us think less of you.

GrythusDraconis
"I'm sick of hearing that beauty is only skin-deep. That's deep enough. Who wants an adorable pancreas?" - Unknown

EzRa-D
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 05-16-2003 19:36

i dont have a sandwich but here have a cookie

Dr T E Ozone
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 05-16-2003 20:51

Frankly I dont care if Im liked, Im not here to be liked, and I dont really care for some of the people here either... The link to the image is below:
http://images.deviantart.com/large/wallpaper/wfemale/Standing_Out.jpg


BTW you idiotic morons, It ISNT ME in the damn picture, I was just depressed, Came across a stock photo and wanted to do something... I like it... You may not... It is suppose to potray emotions. Now if you can not comprehend this perfect logic, Then do me a favor, Die... Thanks!

[edit]: Oh and one more thing, If you could not understand by the simple subject line: "What do you all think?", step back and shut up... It was put up for review, I wanted to see everyones thoughts about the IMAGE IN GENERAL, not SANDWICHES! ;mumbles; dumbasses

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So what if I am clinicly insane, Does that mean I am a danger to what is known as socieity? Wait it does...

Regards,
Thaadeous Edward Ozone

[This message has been edited by Dr T E Ozone (edited 05-16-2003).]

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 05-16-2003 21:01

"What do you all think?"

Who does your hair? and where did you get those heart thingys under your eyes?

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 05-16-2003 21:03

Oh, gee, I guess you told us

You certainly won't get anywhere with this childish bullshit. If you wanted something specifc, then you need to state that when you post image in the first place.

It is natural to assume, in such an image, the subject is yourself. With such a personal image, it would also be wise to point out when you post the image, that it is not you.

When you make vague posts with vague subject matter, guess what - you;re going to get vague responses! And guess what else - just because you post a topic, doesn't mean people are going to stick to it. That's just something you need to accept and deal with.

And finally, you got some reveiws on the image - now go and do something with the informative advice that you've received

=)


Shiiizzzam
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Nurse's Station
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 05-16-2003 23:44

I think it's too cloudy and not sharp enough. Also, IMHO, the font doesn't go well with the photo. If it's a stock photo as you say then I'm not sure what you are wanting to hear. A comment on someone elses photography? Anyway, that about sums up my thoughts of it.

DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 05-17-2003 00:13

Cheap photo: Not Yours

Cheap Bevels: Layer Styles

Cheap Font: Bad Cursive Not Conducive

Cheap Sats: Glamour Photo Pastels

What do I think? I think you're swinging without a bat.
Hopefully you become a better creator than you are a conversationalist. Your skills lack, and your attitude sucks.

Other than that..I think you're just a kid. Too bad the piece doesn't even merit that level.

quisja
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: everywhere
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 05-17-2003 00:16

It's a good point - if that's just a stock photo then what is there to the image? A bevel, some text and a line. I think that I've seen far better and more talented portrayals of depression.
[edit]Beaten to those points by DG. The conversation seems just as bad as the photoshopping. And since when was Gothicism about being depressed anyway?[/edit]


[This message has been edited by quisja (edited 05-17-2003).]

Dr T E Ozone
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Apr 2003

posted posted 05-17-2003 01:15

While I welcome imput, It seems that you people are just slightly too focused upon yourselves to see the emotion behind it, A real pity... Aside from a lot of you being total and utter idiots, and emotionless bastards, I like the idea behind the image... I think its a wonderful creation.. Hell with all of you..

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So what if I am clinicly insane, Does that mean I am a danger to what is known as socieity? Wait it does...

Regards,
Thaadeous Edward Ozone

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 05-17-2003 01:41

That's nice =)

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 05-17-2003 02:32

Dr TEO:

quote:
Aside from a lot of you being total and utter idiots, and emotionless bastards, I like the idea behind the image... I think its a wonderful creation.. Hell with all of you..



If that is the way you feel then:

1. Why did you ask in the first place?

2. Why are you still here?

___________________
Emps

FAQs: Emperor

norm
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: [s]underwater[/s] under-snow in Juneau
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 05-17-2003 02:49

************************************************************************
".. It is suppose to potray emotions."
***********************************************************************
And just what emotion is this very large, slightly washed out image of a bored little girl supposed to inspire?

Now the talk about sandwiches, on the other hand..... man does that make me hungry! And I just finished a sandwich. "Please Sir... May I have another?"

sib
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: lala-land
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 05-17-2003 03:04

Quote: "Aside from a lot of you being total and utter idiots, and emotionless bastards"

You might want to consider revamping this snetence and perhaps re-evaluate your attitude!!!

Looked at the image this morning ... nice photo and that is it for me. Did it evoke emotions - nope. Graphically - bevels and so on have been mentioned before.

I don't even know why I am posting this now - guess people like you just simply "piss me off"

sib




velvetrose
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: overlooking the bay
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 05-17-2003 03:33

goth? nah, she has a punk hairdo and jewelry and she has a pink skirt! the kids here who went through a goth stage (about 10 years ago) wore all black, too many piercings and longer hair... er, maybe it's the difference in location?

Ruski
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 05-17-2003 04:26

you want my oppinion?...it sucks
very cheap design...thats about it

Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 05-17-2003 04:33

Not sure why I'm bothering to say this, but... the Ozone Asylum is a technical forum for graphic designers and web authors. It's easy to say that art has no rules, but that doesn't mean that everything is art. Our most respected members (and most of the people who have bashed you are among our most respected members) have that respect for a reason: they understand what makes good art good, and bad art bad.

If you choose to ignore them, you're sending the following message: "I don't care if my work is good or not."

And if you a) don't believe my words, or b) don't care about them, then honestly: leave and never return. If we're assholes, it's because we believe that tough love is better than mushy indifference. (Look at any DeviantArt comments section ever for an example of the latter. If you want "good job, like the colors," then you're at the wrong forum.)

And if we talk about sandwiches, it's because you haven't provided a compelling reason for the thread... one of my personal favorites is hard cheddar, chicken salad, and alfalfa sprouts on rye.

SupaFly
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: a little toward the middle
Insane since: May 2003

posted posted 05-17-2003 05:32

hehe...

I dont mind this crowd at all. I think that if you ask a question and get answers (regardless of how blunt they may be), then you got what you wanted. Suck it up and LISTEN to the advice. Take what you can from it, and be better at what you do.

Make some lemonade for crying out loud.


And am I too late to get a sandwich...?

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 05-17-2003 05:48

Mmm...sandwiches and lemonade!

We got a picnic goin here!

And, DTE -- a bevel and a drop shadow? What's there to evaluate? Additionally, you might want to post in the correct forum next time.

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 05-17-2003 12:27

Now that I realize that is not you...

I still really want to know who does her hair and where she got those heart thingys under her eyes.

. . : slicePuzzle

trib
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Den Haag, Netherlands
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 05-17-2003 13:27
quote:
While I welcome imput, It seems that you people are just slightly too focused upon yourselves to see the emotion behind it, A real pity... Aside from a lot of you being total and utter idiots, and emotionless bastards, I like the idea behind the image... I think its a wonderful creation.. Hell with all of you..



In other words "what fo you think" translates directly into "tell me it's good or stay out of the discussion" ...

Frankly, like so many others here, I spent years learning to use photoshop, and still don't have the nerve to offer any of my creations as "what do you think" items BECAUSE I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH OF AN ARTIST ... nor am I egocentric enough to waste peoples time, and insult their intelligence by expecting them to compliment my work ...

However, since you insist on an artistic, rather than a technical, evaluation, I showed your offering to my two, very own, personal, professional artists (both my wife and my daughter are working artists/photographers, who are exhibiting regularly, selling well and seriously in-demand) ... Here are a selection of the more palatable of their responses.

Flat ...
Meaningless ...
Pointless ...
So What ...
Immature ....
Facile ...
Why did you waste my time showing that to me ...

So I tried to explain that I wanted an serious artistic critique ... to which the both replied ... "of what?".



Bug-free software only exisits in two places
A programmer's mind and a salesman's lips

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