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Trigger
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 05-17-2003 13:36

Its nothing special and nothing that coudlnt be created by an Infant who knew where the filter styles where in 5 minutes


the emotions it porrays to me is im boring, and bland and dull.. and I like white..




Rameses Niblik the Third
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: From:From:
Insane since: Aug 2001

posted posted 05-17-2003 13:39
quote:
Aside from a lot of you being total and utter idiots, and emotionless bastards, I like the idea behind the image... I think its a wonderful creation.. Hell with all of you..



Why did you want our opinions, then? Do you get a rise out of asking people what they think and then telling them to f*@k off when their words aren't what you wanted to be told?

Maybe you should consider this before someone's opinion so cruelly wounds you, oh glorious twat!

[edit] Sorry if this is offensive. [/edit]



velvetrose
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: overlooking the bay
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 05-17-2003 15:02

alright already.. put out the torches..
the sandwiches and lemonade are over there with wakkos..

Shiiizzzam
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Nurse's Station
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 05-17-2003 15:08

I hate it when someone ask what you think and if it's not what they want to hear then you suck and have no clue. What a dipshit. Oh well, it's about time for a new troll to grace us with their presence and I guess that's you ~shrug~

Why not make something in PS or take some photos THEN post and get some opinions. That's what the Zone is about. Not others work and then if someone sees flaws and offeres advice that would lead to a better end result you get pissed. You won't find better graphics people that what roams the halls here. So let them be your friends or enemies. The choice is yours

Grow up maybe ?

Human Shield
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 05-17-2003 16:39

My opinion of the image not withstanding, I disagree with this statement by Perfect Thunder...

"Our most respected members (and most of the people who have bashed you are among our most respected members) have that respect for a reason: they understand what makes good art good, and bad art bad."

You cannot define good art vs. bad art. Good and bad are opinions, not markers. The most respected people here are not respected because they can set a standard definition for what must be liked and what must be disliked., they are respected for their work and their help, not their opinions.

That said, T.E.O. - you asked for opinions and got them. You may disagree with them, but that's no reason to begin trash talking, just because you didn't get the applause you felt you deserved. If you think it's fine the way it is, by all means, ignore our criticisms. You never know though, somebody might make a comment that might influence you to look at it a different way and see something that could improve it. Getting angry because we don't agree with your opinion, well, that just gets us defensive, and makes it less likely people will be willing to critique your work in the future. Yes, some people here lack tact, and will critique your work without providing any beneficial suggestions for how to improve it. You just gotta ignore them, and take the bad with the good.

As for your image - I have no problem with someone using stock photos. We can't all have our own cameras and such. The bevel though, is rather cheesey, and doesn't add much to the image. The text doesn't really create any emotional ties to the girl for me, because she does not look alone or even sad. There's far too much white space for such a large image, and I don't understand why you clipped off the bottom left of the photo. So, there's my criticism. Suggestions: maybe if you had a very very very light, almost watermark light image of just the girl superimposed on the left... zoomed in some, maybe on her eyes or face. Also, do something with the text. Black on white... it doesn't express much to me. Now, white on black, or a different color on black, that would give me more of a feeling of a void, emptiness. I can't think of much else right now. It definitely needs work, in my opinion, but you go ahead and ignore that if you disagree. Just don't get angry.

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 05-17-2003 17:17
quote:
It seems that you people are just slightly too focused upon yourselves to see the emotion behind it


Exactly what emotion is there to be portrayed by a photo of a bored looking girl..."I'm bored"?

quote:
I like the idea behind the image... I think its a wonderful creation...



And in that my friend, you are truly in a party of one...

Everything else has already been said by other people, and I abhore repeating others comments in the same thread in the same context.


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Sanzen
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Raleigh, NC
Insane since: Jan 2003

posted posted 05-17-2003 17:48

The girl in the photo actually looks pretty happy to me, not alone.... try being original and learning more photoshop.... photoshop and art are a trial and error combination... you'll get it eventually, but this isn't it... she's not lonely, she's not sad, she can't represent someone who is... go back, attempt again, learn more and come back and post it in the PHOTOSHOP forum

tikigod
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: outside Augusta National
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 05-17-2003 18:27

Waanh...waanh...oh yeah and WAANH. You done whining now DTE. You want me to get you a bottle? Maybe change your diaper? Stop acting like a big baby. You asked for it and you got it. Sorry people didn't box it up with a little pink ribbon.

Here, I'll critique the emotion of that photo:

1) No emotion in her face. Just be cause she's not smiling doesn't mean she's depressed. she actually looks like she's doing that: "Just take the damn picture" non-smile

2) The lighting is dull, no sense of any kind of drama or emotional hook. Judging by the way the wall behind her is blown out I'd guess this was shot in the shade on an overcast day.

3) It has no point of reference. If she is depressed, then about what? Her make-up?

4) There is no moment. Its basically a posed shot.

Sorry to break it to you DTE, but the photo you are channeling all this emotion into is probably somebodies snapshot of their little goth girlfriend(who was trying to look all serious/vogue) with a cheap point-and-shoot or disposable camera(the softness shi spoke about earlier-cheap lens).

BTW What is up with using Docs name? Nothing says "I am not creative" then using someone elses handle.


-tiki, cell 478

CPrompt
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: there...no..there.....
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 05-18-2003 02:32

OK, I am no big artist or anything but I will give you an honest opinion since the name of the topic is "What do you all think?"

1. It's too wide. If this is something that is to be displayed on the computer screne, it's too big. Even on my 1280 x 1024 res, I have to scroll
to see the entire pic. I don't like that.

2. The text being on one side and the picture on the other doesn't really work. Don't know what else to say there. The text itself, doesn't really
go with the "idea" or "emotion" does it? Nope.

3. The picture itself, it's not yours so I won't bother too much. It's really washed out though. May want to spend sometime working on it by itself if you plan on using it.

4. For this kind of subject matter, the ferns in the background really suck. It clashes with the subject.

5. The beveling and embossing of the pic makes it look REAL cheap. It looks like a pillow. Drop shadows are the same thing. Too cheap.

6. Why is the corner sepearted from the rest of the pic? It really makes no sense to me. Is that what is "standing out and alone" ? Not supposed to be is it? Isn't it supposed to be her emtions?

Now, I didn't have one good thing there to say. Bummer. Wish that I did. Now, if your attitude regarding critiques is going to continue this way, then I suggest that you either deal with it or find one of those "hoopy froody" websites where people will think your cool. You asked what we thought and people told you. Don't ask if you want to hear the truth, which is what you are going to hear. There are some great talent here in the halls of the Asylum but if you just go about it half assed then you are really missing out.

When I first came here I posted my first website and got FLAMMED! But, I took a step back and looked at what I had done and yes, they were right. It sucked. Sucked real bad. But I have taken their advice here and their help and used it. I think since then, my skills have improved greatly. And I have them and myself and no one else to thank for that.



Later,

C:\


~Binary is best~

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 05-18-2003 11:44

'Dr T E Ozone' (and everyone else who posted in this thread) i like to invite you for a little challenge

Go over to the Photoshop forum and post the original pic there.
Then try to make it look alone and bear in mind the comments people gave in here.
I too (not the biggest artist 'round here) will make a picture and try making her look alone.
Hopefully other people will join to. Then you watch take a good look at the pic you like most. And watch the things other people did. And to the other inmates i like to say: just show him what you meant, a picture is worth more than a thousand words.


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viol
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Charles River
Insane since: May 2002

posted posted 05-18-2003 18:08

Why do you all people - now including me - waste time with such a bad tempered guy like this fake Ozone stupid something? This guy sucks. Take a look only at the few posts he or she has posted here. They mean nothing! This thread should be deleted to avoid more people to waste their time.

Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 05-18-2003 18:55

Holy shit, that looks like the girl I lost my virginity too.

I think she'd look a lot better after a bottle of vodka... or was it two bottles...

edit: Nothing beats Turkey, Hommus, Dutch smoked cheese and cracked black pepper on soy and lyn seed bread.

[This message has been edited by Dracusis (edited 05-18-2003).]

Wes
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Inside THE BOX
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 05-18-2003 20:11

You know, I had my very first hummus at a party last night.

And met a girl for whom I wouldn't mind regaining my virginity just so I could lose it again.


Hugh
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Dublin, Ireland
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 05-18-2003 20:54

""What do you all think?", step back and shut up"

umm, yea ....

Instead of shutting up I'll give you a wee review despite of the ol' logic flaw.
Its a photo of ugly, bevel&emboss and a line of text. Is it like some kind of "modern art" ? I dont get it eitherway.
"Standing Out / And Alone" .. why not just write "Loser".

One thing I do like about it is it shows the foolishness of trying to stand out too much.

Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 05-18-2003 23:21

It just occurred to me that whenever someone reacts poorly to criticism, it usually turns into a "you asked for it, you got it" dogpile. Perhaps we should start an FAQ about "why is everyone so mean to me?" and refer people to that?

tikigod
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: outside Augusta National
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 05-18-2003 23:36

^^LOL ....Thats not a bad Idea

Yannah
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: In your Hard Drive; C:
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 05-19-2003 00:36
quote:
Assuming the person in the photograph is you...


No, I thought Dr.Ozone's a he.

platyjim
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Fromsville
Insane since: Feb 2003

posted posted 05-19-2003 00:46

Just take the criticism they give you itll make you a better artist in the end. try improving it so theyre comments are irrlevant instead of bitching about them/

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viol
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Charles River
Insane since: May 2002

posted posted 05-19-2003 01:29

I miss Yannah's useful threads....

Wakkos
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Azylum's Secret Lab
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 05-19-2003 09:50

Happy new week, sandwich anyone?

I hope you don't care that I'm naked......

Hey DG! long time I don't see you!
please take a sandwidch!

Fey
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Netherlands
Insane since: May 2003

posted posted 05-19-2003 10:07

One more thing: did you actually ask the permission of this girl to use the photograph? Maybe she doesn't want to be photoshopped at all.

Rameses Niblik the Third
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: From:From:
Insane since: Aug 2001

posted posted 05-19-2003 12:54

Okay, this thread is going nowhere. Thread closed (by someone who can, please).

RN3

Wakkos
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Azylum's Secret Lab
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 05-19-2003 16:16

Sandwich while someone close it?

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 05-19-2003 17:32

I'll take the sandwhich and close the thread too........

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