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Was listening to a conversation one of our female anchors and our female weatherperson was having before a show the other day and I learned an interesting bit of information from them: Women don't like to be called "cute."

This was strange to me, since I really go for "cute."

They were saying that a woman would much rather be called "pretty." I could see their point if inflection were discussed as any part of it, as in someone saying, "Well, she's cute ... (implied 'but') ..." However, they were regarding the simple use of the word "cute" as somehow insulting.

Is this true, ladies? You don't like the word "cute"?

cute is bad!!

babies are cute...puppies are cute.... women are stunning, beautiful, exquisit, ravishing, pretty, lovely (i think you get the picture) but not cute.

it's just always seemed to me that the person saying 'cute' ... just has nothing else nice to say about you. like...if you were talkin to a woman with a face like a smashed crab, then to be nice... you'd say she's cute....

that probably makes no sense, and i'm not very good with explaining things... but cute is bad

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cute is bad ! It makes you feel like a little girl and not stunning or beautiful. I have a baby face and hear "cute" a lot

Cute is t3h 3v1l for a lady! ¬¬

As already said, cute is more like objects, animals and little humans rather than for ladies. Ladies are elegant, smart, intuitive, sexy (in a good way, dont relate it to 'hot chick', ugh), beautiful, and obviously, wonderful

And when a woman uses cute for describing someone...s/he is usually a silly person

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Get over it.

Cute for a woman is far different than cute for a child. Don't get so hung up on the word - focus on what is actually meant by it...



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women can't *do* that



/me hopes the winkie makes everything ooooh kay =D



Jason

I always thought 'cute' was a good word.

Well, I'll have to refine the words I use to describe women. Argh.

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women are stunning, beautiful, exquisit, ravishing, pretty, lovely (i think you get the picture) but not cute.

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From my point of view this is what I think of when these words are said (more or less, most of these except for the first and last are all googled and I found the one that fit best).

Stunning:click
Beautiful: click
Exquisit:click
Ravishing:click
Pretty:click
Lovely:click
Cute:click (nudity)

Who would agree?

"I make and I sell soap."

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if you were talkin to a woman with a face like a smashed crab, then to be nice... you'd say she's cute....

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I was always under the impression that, in this sort of situation, you would talk about how wonderful her personality is.

At this point in time, this is the first thing I think of when I hear "cute."

(Note: the above link is possibly in poor taste, but definitely hysterical--but only if you're familiar with Weebl and Bob. My wife does not understand why I find this amusing, so maybe it's a guy thing.)


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Suho1004:

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At this point in time, this is the first thing I think of when I hear "cute."

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Tentacle porn eh?!?!??!?!!? Now I know who has been beaming such evilness into my mind - it must be something to to with that new voltage modulation equipment you ordered up the other month!! You rotter.

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Suho1004: I don't know Weebl and Bob and found the anim boring for the most part, but the end is so "urotsukidoji"
No surprise your wife doesn't understand

Mathieu "POÏ" HENRI

And for maximum effect, try that link with Santana, 'Black Magic Woman' playing in the background...

'Cute', definitely...hehe...

I love Weebl and Bob. Look for the monkey song and cheese.

Momomomo Monkey!

EDIT: And real hentai tentacle stuff is somewhat stupid. I cant understand how people get turned on with taht,
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I have a female friend who keeps calling me 'cute'. I reckon that's a bad sign, then?

Cute is bad. I too get called cute all the time too. Just something that I perfer not to be called. Maybe it is because of my babyface look too.

cfb: Every one of those pictures is exactly accurate. Well done.

I never even considered that there might be a negative connotation associated with "cute" to women.

Who knew, I think we should start a understanding Women Wiki.

Oh well I tend to fall for slightly crazy redheads, rarely definded by cute. A little scary to some maybe, but not cute.

J. Stuart J.


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Who knew, I think we should start a understanding Women Wiki.

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No, even if we had a server the size of the moon, I don't think we could ever contain a Wiki of that size...

Emps, poi: Um, actually I'm not into tentacle porn... it was just the "so cute!" part that got me.

Japanese men seem to be fine with this sort of thing, though. My wife and I were on a plane once (flying from somewhere to somewhere else, can't remember where, though), and there was a Japanese guy across the aisle from me reading some very graphic hentai. He had it right out in the open, and was just sitting there reading it like you might flip through The New Yorker. It was bizarre.

And I would say that Weebl and Bob is definitely not an acquired taste--apparently you either love it or you don't. I happen to love it.


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I can't beleive that you all are just now figureing out that women don't like to be called cute.
Sometimes we learn the hard way though!

Later,

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I'll have to second everything the ladies above have said about "cute". Women, especially women in relationships, have an amazingly hard time getting compliments in the first place. To have a rare compliment is a great thing, and to have the compliment be "cute" really spoils it.
If you're going to take a moment to give a woman a compliment, make it something she'll remember fondly. It probably has to last a while.

I heard something the other day that sums it up perfectly:

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A woman has to be reminded occasionally that she is both desireable and beautiful, otherwise she ceases to be either.

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"Cute". Bleh. Please.


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Emps, poi: Um, actually I'm not into tentacle porn... it was just the "so cute!" part that got me.

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Yeah right.

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Japanese men seem to be fine with this sort of thing, though. My wife and I were on a plane once (flying from somewhere to somewhere else, can't remember where, though), and there was a Japanese guy across the aisle from me reading some very graphic hentai. He had it right out in the open, and was just sitting there reading it like you might flip through The New Yorker. It was bizarre.

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There was a report on BBC News 24 the other night about hentai and the strongest tentacle porn, rape, etc. comics are available from the same shops as the rest - different strokes for different folks

Then again now I think about it perhaps Suho had got at my mains electricity and was beaming it into my house!! Is there no end to this man's evil????

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And I would say that Weebl and Bob is definitely not an acquired taste--apparently you either love it or you don't. I happen to love it.

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Put me down as loving it!! I am suprised that it hasn't made the media job to TV (if only ads).

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Emps: From what I hear, Weebl and Bob can be seen on MTV. I wouldn't know for sure, though.

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Is there no end to this man's evil????

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Last I checked, no.

And as for the hentai being sold right alongside "normal" manga, I suppose Korea's not all that much different in that respect. In Korean video shops, the porn videos are right out in the front in full view of everyone, including the little kids who come in. I always found that kind of odd. I'm pretty sure hentai is a purely Japanese phenomenon, though (then again, I'm not really into Korean comics, so I wouldn't know for sure).



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Well I don't know about where you guys are speaking from.. but in London the girls/women I know do not react adversly to being call cute.. bitch maybe.. but cute? no..

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Main Entry: cute
Pronunciation: 'kyüt
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): cut·er; cut·est
Etymology: short for acute
Date: circa 1731
1 a : clever or shrewd often in an underhanded manner b : IMPERTINENT, SMART-ALECKY <don't get cute with me>
2 : attractive or pretty especially in a dainty or delicate way

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... nothing wrong with that..

..and would someone be so kind as to tell me what 'tentacle porn' is please?



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Xpirex: If your asking what it is then I'm sure that the logic (or lack of) behind it would cause you to become more confused about it that you already are. Probabley a bit scared of the people who brought up the subject as well...

Xpirex: The dictionary definition of the word means nothing--words tend to take on different meanings through time... it's all about perception.

And, no, I'm afraid I'd rather not enlighten you on the subject of tentacle porn. That's the last thing I need right now--people even more afraid of me than they already are...


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..ahhhhhhhh ..now I know why some of you guys love illustrateher so much..
so even in the cartoon world the woman is the victim..


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In my defense, I don't watch any of that nonsence, but I have a (former) friend that does (I think) and I herd about it from him.

^-- Not buying a word of it.


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Everyone's doing it!



Disturbing stuff, to say the least.

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I'm not buying that, either...hehe.

I've found that many women don't like the "cute" word either, and I must say, I think it's insane.

Most of my female friends are quite open about saying some guy is ugly, even to their face, and then they complain about the nice compliments they get. I'm starting to think this is because us guys don't pay women enough negative compliments. So, if we just start calling all women ugly for a year or two, they'll be great full for anything that can be passed off for a compliment. =)

Heh, just kidding, you're all beautiful.

I know in certain parts of Britain, "bad" is equivalent to "sexy." Should we start calling all the ladies we like "bad"? ;p

suho: Definitions are irrelevant if they are used in a discussion with an irrational thinker. Most people are irrational thinkers... so as a generalization, you are correct. An intelligent person would choose words applicable to specific situational contexts. For instance, a suburban white male shouldn't go to Philly wearing a reversed red NY baseball cap with a bandana, walk up to a downtown Phillian black man who's strutting, and say, "Are ya down wit me, nigga?" In fact, suburban white kids dressing like that shouldn't go to any place that's dangerous and where they'd be perceived as contradictory to the cultural status quo. ;p

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In fact, suburban white kids dressing like that shouldn't go to any place that's dangerous and where they'd be perceived as contradictory to the cultural status quo.

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Suburban white kids dressing like that should just be shot on sight.

Back to the issue at hand, though. What I was trying to say with my rather dramatic "Dictionary definitions mean nothing" bit was the generally accepted meaning of words changes over time. Take "nice," for example. Originally, this word meant "foolish, stupid", then it took on a popular meaning, and these days it is so hackneyed that it is beginning to take on a negative meaning again (thanks in part to the efforts of the famed linguist George Carlin). Other negative words have followed a similar pattern ("bad" and "fat ==> phat" for example).

"Cute" has always had a positive connotation--perhaps it is now going the way of "nice."

There is also, as you mentioned, the problem of context (which includes the elements of speaker, listener, environment, etc.). Words mean different things to different people, even simple words like "table" (if I asked you all to draw me a table, I'd likely get quite a variety of different tables). When you're dealing with such subjective words as "cute," it's no wonder there is confusion.

In defense of guys who use the word "cute" to describe women, I will say that, when I was in university, we understood "cute" to have two meanings:

1. "Damn she's cute!" (generally accompanied by a sharp intake of breath and an almost pained expression)
2. "Eh, she's cute." (generally accompanied by a shrug and/or disinterested look)

As you can see, the two meanings are vastly different. The first definition is an extreme compliment, while the second is a kissing cousin to "nice". The problem is that most men, at least those who dislike getting maced or kicked in the nuts, will generally refrain from the exaggerated expressions of approval often accompanying the first meaning. Thus, women only ever get the second meaning, and therein lies the misunderstanding.


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metahuman- you've been here a couple of months, but I take it you like to stir up trouble...

why don't you swing by the Philosophy and other Silliness Forum where people argue for the sake of arguing?

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Petskull: Define "trouble."

It sounds like all the women hate "cute" because they think it doesn't mean "desirable." Meanwhile, all the men use the word to mean "desirable."

Why don't the women just come to the realization that "cute" means "girl I want to date, enter a committed relationship with, sleep with, marry, have kids with, buy a giant house for, and love for the rest of my days?" Because that's what it means... at least as much as "beautiful" and the rest of them mean... which isn't necessarily much.

When I say "cute," that's what I mean. And since I'm just echoing every damn guy here, whose fault is it that "cute" sounds bad to women? I'm going to say it's their misunderstanding, not ours.

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"I'm going to say it's their misunderstanding, not ours."

That's right, however, if one is to appease them he'd have to speak the language with which they're comfortable. This is another way women can "gain power" or control over a relationship. Beware.

I don't know....from a whole lot of women I've seen, the way to make hem want you is to be as big an asshole as possible.

Treat 'em nice, and they want nothing to do with you.

Piss on them, and they won't stay away.

Of course, many women will condemn me for saying that. But in many cases, it's true.

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i completely agree with you DL... but i think men are just as guilty of that as well.

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So DL, I guess we'll just keep calling them cute then