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in a vain attempt to satiate his curiousity, threep asks:
"i just wanted to know - what religions do we have in this place? i thought it would be cool to see 'em all, WITHOUT it being tangled in some ridiculously cyclical theologocal debate.
Let me start the ball rolling:
i am a christian, and if we want to get pedantic, i am from the reformed denomination, which stemmed from the protestants, which more or less adheres to the beliefs of luther and calvin (no, not the comic book character with the cool --stuffed toy--!)."

...threep edits his post in order to keep certain pedantic asylumnites happy...

....threep edits once again for clarity:
"i hate to be such a thread tyrant, but i'll merely voice my desires - ignore them at will.
i would love it if people could comment on their own {religion / moral set / mopping ethos}, not on how {apathetic / 'crutch' like / wrong} someone else's is. i love debate, but it has its place, and it would be great if we could avoid the tedious.

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Christian

hobbes is not a teddy bear. teddy bears aren't striped nor feline. get your facts straight.

in answer to your question: i am agnostic for the most part, sometimes atheist, mostly agnostic though...

teddy bears don't like tuna fish sandwhiches with the crust cut off either...

netmosisdotcalm n. - from latin netmosisusdotuscalmus - fuck it all.

I'm a dyslexic, insomniac, agnostic.

I sit up at night and wonder if there really is a dog.

Born-again spirit-filled neoholy-roller

I dont know what I am. I am nothing. I am not at a point in my life where I want to decide one way or another.

Hobbes = Tiger
Calvin & Hobbes = one of greatest comic strips ever

Me = Catholic (by Baptism, skeptic/cynic by trade ).

Agnostic. Don't know. Don't care. Life's too short as it is.

I follow the 6 truths of the mop.....

1. to mop is noble
2. love thy mop
3. mop is more than man alone
4. never swing ones mop lightly or in vain
5. thy mop is good and can break down dirty patches
6. follow thy mop and yea shall never clean alone.

*rubs mop and vnishes* ~Vp~

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What are you saying.. I am god!

Seriously, I started life as a Roman Catholic, decided to be a Pagan when I was 13. That lasted for about 5 years untill I was studying Religion at Uni and have since lost almost all faith. I do have beliefs and do still consider myself religious, I just don't conform to any kind of religion per say.

WELL, I TYPICALLY AVOID CONVERSATIONS OF THIS NATURE, WHO CAN SAY WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO WORSHIP ME? MANY FOLKS HAVE ASKED ME TO MAKE A FIRM COMMITMENT ON THIS SUBJECT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WHICH RELIGION IS THE BEST RELIGION? HOW CAN ONE BEST PLEASE ME, YOUR CREATOR? ONE OF THE REASONS I CREATED THE CONCEPT OF "FREE WILL" IN THE FIRST PLACE IS SO THAT YOU COULD ALL SORT THIS OUT IN YOUR OWN WAY, WITHOUT INTERFERENCE FROM ME. THEREFORE, I WILL NOT MAKE ANY DEFINITIVE STATEMENTS ON THIS SUBJECT, BUT PLEASE BE ASSURED THAT I WILL BE FOLLOWING YOUR COMMENTS WITH GREAT INTEREST. CARRY ON, AND HAVE FUN! (WHOOPS! SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT, BEST NOT TO GIVE TO MANY CLUES!)

"NOBODY CREATES IT LIKE GOD"

I'm pretty much an atheist. The idea of some mythical being running the show seems pretty ludicrous to me.

I do find the Pagan religions to be quite interesting though. Maybe I'll pick one up.

It's your God, they're your rules, YOU go to Hell.

Agnostic or Atheist. Whatever.

Christian, grew up Catholic and now non-denominational (and what the heck is a non-practising Catholic and if you don't do is there really any point to hold onto the name?).

I guess seeing so many "don't know, don't care" responses surprises me, especially in an intelligent, thinking group like this. I mean, drawing your own conclusion is your right, but I would think that people that seem to think about a lot of stuff as much as ya'll do would consider what's around you and how it got there. Just thinking out loud...

And silence, our beliefs do line up on Calvin and Hobbes

Chris

KAIROSinteractive

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non-denominational

heh. Funny stuff. Curiosity is evil.

I was born Catholic. I've been recovering from that action ever since.

Currently, I have more in common with the Bhuddists than I do with anyone else. Though I can't agree completely, because I do not believe in a higher-life-force-being-god-thing. I'm all about me and the people around me. Life is suffering, we've got that connection. We're all seperate, though brought together by our pain.

So, in all honestly, I have a philosophical religion, one based on respect and connectedness. I do not give into dogma, into sinning, into afterlives, into reincarnation.

I am.

I just wanted to say that it's not that I don't care. What I meant by "Whatever" is that I'm whatever you want to label it as.

I don't believe in a god. That's it. It's not that I don't want to. I just don't. I'm too much of a skeptic.

I was also Christened Catholic as an infant, though my mother never pushed it. I've been exposed to all sorts of beliefs growing up, especially that of the Lakotas. I have to say I lean more towards the Native American beliefs generally than any other.

I think the fact that God has only 4 posts says it all really.

Fig, you have seen the light, my brother. The actions of the "striped one" and "the golden haired boy" are great things to behold.

Yeah, silence. And I have to add that God has a really weak sig.

*ducks and runs (just in case)*

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I'm agnostic.

I believe in what all the prophets knew to be true.

The reason ya'll are so atheist and skeptical is because these religious fanatics try to cram this doctrine down your throat which was mostly all written for purposes of population control. Where the truth does shine through, it is metaphorical because it was written for people who could not believe anything that didn't fit their realm of experience.

God is not some mythical being, or great judge sitting in heaven looking down on us. That is a story told to trick people into behaving a certain way. God isn't OUT there, god is just EVERYWHERE & EVERYTHING.

-jiblet

jiblet,

For an agnostic your post is sounding pretty dogmatic. Do you care to explain why you're trying to cram Pantheistic doctrine down our throats?



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I'm agnostic, meaning I believe in all religions. I was merely explaining my own beliefs which I may state strongly, but are still just my personal beliefs. I think people would be better served to seek their own spiritual enlightenment rather than have it spoonfed thru a formula such as religion.

I still believe in all religions because they were created by enlighted individuals who were trying to benefit the world. I don't like religious doctrine because words (especially words copied and translated by who knows who over 1000s of years) do not convey the truth of the soul, and at best can hope to spark the thought that leads to the truth in a person's mind. I mean, I'm sure we can both agree that there is a lot more to spiritual matters than what is defined in our human languages.

I'm sorry to have offended you.

-jiblet

active Christian, thanks for askin

BTW, that's the first time I've ever heard God shout, I doubt that was really him though, the book of Revelation warns of many that will come in his name and will deceive many. This is further proof that the end is near, repent!

Jason

jiblet,

You didn't offend me. But I never thought that "agnostic" referred to someone who believed in all religions. Here's the definition I'm using:

Agnostic: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and prob. unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god

I think we are using different definitions for the same word.

Hey God: screw you!!!!!!!!!

hehe

I created God as a child, so I was Catholic...and the creator.

I destroyed God as an adolescent, so I was Pagan...and the destroyer.

I became God as an adult, so I am Human...and the shaper.

Creator, Destroyer, Shaper. I was always God of this perception. So, who made whom? "I am the insurrection and the strife."

Neat thread, and noone's freaked out yet, or mentioned how everyone else is going to hell. I'm duly impressed.

Peter

Out of all the people I've met who once were some kind of Christian, most of them have been former Catholics.

Disclaimer: This is not a scientific finding but anecdotal at best.

God.. aka.. religion in whatever form it manifests itself, is for people who cant handle their own existance..nuff said.. thats the be all and end all. ya need to bellieve so you pick a belief.. nought wrong with that...

next.........

It's the blazers man.

Noone can believe in a supreme deity that would approve of knickers and navy blue blazers in 110 degree heat.

I mean...have you seen those things?

Dear Lord, I say.

~cough~

peter - I'm afraid to say: you're going to hell for that!!

god himself chose the uniform!!!!

I can handle my own existence just fine thank you very much.

I think *many* people religious and non-religious can't handle their own existence.

Saying that I am one of them is more than presumptuous on your part, Roger.

I said that Bug?. hmmm.. ya got a bug up ya ass?.. I dont recall directing any comments your way ion the slightest?.. did I?.. explain if you care too?

If I misread a post, it won't be the first time but didn't you say:

"God.. aka.. religion in whatever form it manifests itself, is for people who cant handle their own existance"

In the second post of this very thread I state that I am a Christian... so isn't it logical for me to assume that you include me in your comment?????

whoa, roger. at least stand up and take responsibility for what you said before you start throwing insults around! we don't need that shit

I am a Traditional Catholic and have been since I was born literally. Although there are some things I disagree with and some things I agree with in other religions. Religion pretty much has been and is a large part in my life...sunday school, religion classes, mass, holy camps, retreats(that was fun, tell you the story another time),
and went to a traditional catholic school for four years. Now I'm at an anglican co-ed school. WOOOHOOOOO....excuse me. (My last school was an all boys school) Some of this stuff I was forced to do in one way or another but I've always made fun out of it while it's lasted in my own little way. Plus I have an interest in withcraft and gothic stuff. I also believe in ghosts, devils, aliens, UFO's, banshees, amongst other things. I probably believe in these things because I have had some experiences with some of them. But those stories later....................
For all those who were Catholics......they say catholic roots run deep.....so never know

-=Luxo Jr.=-

Doin' wierdassed animations since 1986

buddhist tendencies plus a deist.. i do not believe there is a gd, i *know* there is.. personal experience and all that.. no i will not share the experience with you.. too personal...

shall i admit i was once catholic? umm sure.. gave it up at age 17 when no one had answers to my questions.. forgot about a deity at that point for several years..

I'm a positive atheist by nature. I deny the existence of any deity.
Note that I do not deny good values.

God is not required. Someone else, who I think is very smart, said:
"Whenever God is an answer, there is ALWAYS another answer too."

^

Hmm, Bugimus, I guess I am not agnostic then. I have very concrete theories on what God is, but I still believe it is unknowable. Kind of like in math you can use infinity in calculations, but you can never really comprehend it as a number.

If I can't call myself agnostic, then there is probably no label to apply to me. I never reinforce any of my beliefs, but constantly modify them as I learn new things. In this way I will never blind myself from the truth for the sake of stability.

-jiblet