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Boudga
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Jacks raging bile duct....
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 05-11-2001 22:00

I ain 't workin' at my job anymore....I quit my job of three and a half years. Wish me luck in my search for new employment!

kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 05-11-2001 22:04

Fuckin loser....

You're ahead of me in post numbers now.

Wow, what made you make that decision? Just up and quit?

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 05-11-2001 22:29

Good luck... it may take a bit more effort with the current situation. People are looking for junior developers more than senior developers... I don't know how that will affect you. If you are going for the front end shin-dig... well I don't know about those jobs, but I bet you will find something worth while soon!

Good luck in the hunt.

Boudga
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Jacks raging bile duct....
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 05-11-2001 22:54

my company's IT department has been fighting with the Sales and Marketing department over who should own me...and I'm really tired of all the political bullshit that I've been in the middle of.

I'm going to aim for a job as a graphics designer (web/print) or if I have to I'll fall back on my skill as a desktop analyst.

twItch^
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the west wing
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-11-2001 23:51

Be afraid, boudga. Be very afraid. The market is saturated with graphic artists.


s t e p h e n

mbridge
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 05-12-2001 00:46

great encouragement there, twitch....

twItch^
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the west wing
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-12-2001 00:51

You want encouragement, go into a different field. You want reality? Talk to me.

Lets be honest here, kids. There are, quite literally, millions of designers in the market right now, all vying for the same positions at the same jobs. Good designers are being passed up for mediocre ones (based, mostly, off of how much money each is worth and each is asking) and thousands of people are out of work because of it.

I'm not saying this is a bad thing. This has nothing to do with the eCommerce year that we had, things blowing up left and right, but it does have a lot to do with the fact that the boom created a boom for designers. Everyone, it seems, is a graphic artist or a web developer these days. I almost find myself blushing when I have to mention to someone in a coffeeshop or something, that I am a graphic artist. They know who they are, and they know what I do. Well, they don't. The conception is, however, that we're a dime-a-dozen, and we can be replaced without too much thought.

Ten years ago? Not nearly the saturation. Today it exists. You want encouragement, get into fast food--most people are polite enough, these days, to say "thanks" to the folks in the drive-through.


s t e p h e n

kevincar
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: north hills, ca usa
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 05-12-2001 01:41

I think the market for everything is saturated right now -
Funny, I've had eight jobs in the industry, and at the last four, they needed a designer, but they didn't have one!

A sad fallacy of human nature: Everyone thinks they have good taste -- Fact is, there are VERY few Boudga's or Doc's or Bugimis's out there - If there were, we'd ALL have bad-ass web pages. Show me an employee trying to gett a corporate exec's to realize they have (shudder) AVERAGE artistic taste, and I'll show you an employee on the road to nowhere.

In fact, most headhunters don't know how to hire them, either -
How can you quantify artistic ability?

If I write on my resume "...designed, wrote, managed project involving 300,000 lines of java utilizing J2EE, blah blah blah...) that carries more weight than showing a stunning web page using 3D modelling.

So companies usually do it "internally" - and it usually turns into a farce... I should know, I've presided over a few :-)

As always, the problem is market timing-
I believe the market will turn, and more and more artistry will enter the profession. Stay tuned.

Just my ramblings, And the best of luck to Boudga -




Sash
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Canada, Toronto
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 05-12-2001 02:54

Good luck Boudga.
The situation doesn't look good right now (everybody talks about that, huh...) but I also think that there is always job for skilled people.



sashaDesign

butcher
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: New Jersey, USA
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 05-12-2001 03:07

Good luck Boudga,

If someone with the coding knowledge you've got, and your talent for design, can't get a job quickly, The rest of us wannabees may as well jump in the 6 foot hole now.

There will be something good there waiting for you.

- Butcher -

docilebob
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: buttcrack of the midwest
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 05-12-2001 05:48

All the best to ya Boudga. Don`t let the bastards wear you down.




If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done ?

Allgood
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Vannas Sweden
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 05-12-2001 09:54

All the best to you my friend. Boudga...keep in touch so we can knw how you are doing man.

Allgood

Allewyn
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Solitary confinement
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 05-12-2001 19:30

Hope it goes well for ya Boudga! If ya want a job in Fish and Wildlife, working in Southern Oregon, jobs are open now...

Boudga
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Jacks raging bile duct....
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 05-14-2001 04:58

You guys all need to go to your local new book store and buy a book entitled, "Who Moved My Cheese". It's a very short book to read and highly motivational. I encourage anyone who has any fear of quitting their job to buy it and read it!!!

Ducati
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in your head
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 05-14-2001 07:22

Yeah... we had to read that book at work as a requirement. Pretty good book.

velvetrose
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: overlooking the bay
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 05-14-2001 16:53

good luck Boudga... hope you find something satisfying

Boudga
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Jacks raging bile duct....
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 05-18-2001 23:35

for anyone interested...I've enjoyed this past week being without a job...however the anxiety to get back to work is steadily creeping into my veins.

Hey Algood...I'll hook back up with you the first week in June...ok?



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