From: 100101010011 <-- right about here Insane since: Mar 2000
posted 07-25-2006 22:57
quote:
They suffer from depressions, alcoholism and mental disorders more because they see themselves as repressed in comparison to the rest of us normal persons in the human race.
The sheer hypocrisy of this statement in the context of this thread is mind blowing.
Seriously this may be the most disturbingly ignorant post I've ever seen in the asylum.
You seriously frighten me. I wish I could say I was being facetious with that comment but I'm not. You know why homosexuals are on the defense? Because of people like you.
quote: jade said:
But they are deceived and they deceive themselves...and its a cycle of ongoing
relationships that are not fulfilled or fulfilling ...like homosexual encounters
as misguided love. Sure they think its love but its a delusion of what real love
is suppose to be like in its commitments.
Is the love you feel for your husband purely sexual? I would venture to guess not. Contrary to this misguided belief you cling to, homosexuality is not only about sex. It is not only about lust. You take the sexual component out of the equation and you are left with love. Pure and simple.
Do some homosexuals engage in sex just for the sake of sex? Yes. But so do countless heterosexuals.
I'm not going to ask you to step into anyone's shoes, as you've proven incapable of this exercise in the past. I am not writing this to reach out to you (because honestly, I think you're a lost cause). In a world where human love is so hard to find, why on earth would you want to suppress it where ever it would flourish?
quote:You call two men (one with makeup) putting down roots with a nice little house, picket fence and two adopted girl and boy toddlers a nice happy normal couple to have a right to practice a loving union. Please I want to stop hearing regurgitating nonsense over and over. Lets stop the insanity. What is the world coming to?
Have you ever met a homosexual couple?? This is so stereotyped it is sickening. Sometimes, it's really difficult to remember you're an adult. The sad and scary fact is there are more just like you.
Please note,
This is God, as jade has stated who has "a beautiful anatomy" and is actually made out of bronze. (perhaps holy spirit sometimes fills the void of bronze and makes it throw thunderbolts, as the pose suggests... He also hates homosexuals.
Now here we have an alcoholic:
who certainly seems to be (mostly depressed and unhappy persons. Suffer from depressions, alcoholism and mental disorders more than a "normal" person.) Which leads us to the next point, he must be homosexual. Who else would be so unhappy sitting in the shadow with a bottle of whisky? Certainly not the "normal" person who fornicates a female (if you are male) and vice versa. No, definalty not normal...he is homosexual.
quote:I see you try to use the name of Christ when it suits to get a point across.
When trying to break through to you it is a neccessity.
quote:Jump on the Christianity bandwagon and say Christ was loving...
What bandwagon are you referring to here? Was he not loving? Did he go around forcing his will on others? You know full well he could have but He gave us something called free-will. You may have heard it mentioned before. Now perhaps it is time you think about what that means. Just once, sit down and think, be honest with yourself.
quote:He would want them to love..love.. love. He preached it. So let them love contrary to the law of God.
God did not make you judge and jury of all that is holy. That power is reserved unto Him and Him alone.
quote:Its something that you only use his name to justify your view of contridiciton.
The only contradiction is your claim of being a Christian when all you talk about is how we should control and force others to behave as you deem appropriate. You are not special, you are not the hand of God, so either think of something intelligent to say or don't say anything at all, as you are just making a fool or yourself.
Jade, I believe that what you are truly afraid of is that two people might be happy living completely in opposition to a way of life that you believe is the only way one can achieve happiness. It's why you must cling so tightly to the idea that gays are depressed drunks (half of whom apparently wear makeup).
That's why you're so fanatical about restricting their way of life. It's why you fight so maniacally to prevent them from achieving the completion of the life they want to build. Because if they did -- if gays achieved the freedoms they seek and subsequently showed how happy and complete they can be without your religion -- then you would be proven wrong and your whole belief system would crumble beneath you.
You want to prove that gays will never achieve happiness by gaining what they seek? Then let them have it. If you give them the freedoms they demand and the gay community then explodes into violence and suicide, then and only then will you be proven right.
This thread was annoying the hell out of me and I was going to ignore it for my own good, but I find it is becoming so outrageous that I feel I have to express myself to calm down.
quote: jade said:
Look around you.... they are on the defense 24/7. They are a mostly depressed and unhappy persons. They suffer from depressions, alcoholism and mental disorders more because they see themselves as repressed in comparison to the rest of us normal persons in the human race. They are bitter, angry because the world is not gay oriented like them. If it were up to them everyone would be created gay...
Everything has been said about it, however I cannot help but stress out how appalling this sounds. Besides, in this statement you could replace "gay" with "black" or "mentally handicapped" it would be the same old story; it makes me so angry I have tears in my eyes.
quote: jade said:
TO BE HOMOSEXUAL IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOR BECAUSE SINCE I LAST LOOKED THEIR PRIVATES WERE THE SAME..!!!
To be homosexual is not a behaviour, you stupid sheep. It's a characteristic, as is being small, white, tall, heterosexual, black, yellow, daft or open-minded.
quote: jade said:
But must of you have jumped on the gay friendly...leave them alone ..let them have what they want... bandwagon.
Yes, because, we have been taught tolerance
quote: jade said:
Here sexual union is not necessary.. Only the spiritual beatific union.
If you can teach me how to procreate without involving sexuality, let me know about it. Why do you think God created reproductive organs, you stupid woman? And, why do you think God made it pleasurable, on top of that?
*sighs*
quote: jade said:
This is when animal instinctual desire without the love of God comes.
Are you implying animals feel no love for their peers? Have you ever taken a step out of your church?
quote: jade said:
Now man wants to satisfy himself with lustful desires and many other desires contrary to the love of God.
Now I am very sorry if I get a bit personal here, but don't you enjoy it in the slightest? I do hope you do. And there is nothing wrong about sharing a pleasant and intimate moment with someone you love. Or is there?
quote: jade said:
Man doesn't know of any other form of love then sexual love. To them sex is love.
Pardon my French, but do you screw your mum, dad, brother or sister? I, contrary wise, know an infinite number of ways of loving different people.
And so on... I could almost say something about each and every sentence you have written, but it really is too much bollocks for me to cope with.
And finally, I would like to add that your few posts alone in this thread, Jade, would put me off religion straight away without a question if I were in the process of making my mind up about it; the feelings you express here are so much full of hatred, discrimination, even racism that I really cannot believe God is giving you this message.
From: somewhere in the great indoors Insane since: Sep 2002
posted 07-27-2006 01:49
Jade...Jade...Jade... I am amazed at how much unsubstanciated drivel there is in your reply to my questions. If there are any stats to back up your claim that gay people have a higher incidence of mental illness I'm will ing to bet you got the figures from your local church news letter. And I happen to think that a good example of "regurgitating nonsense over and over" is quoting passages from a book that has never once been proven to be accurate. Yes Jade, I'm referring to your Bible.
One more thing- You can bet your prejudiced, ignorant, narrow minded, @ss that I consider ANY two people in love a good thing. But then I believe in Love, not some set of made up rules from made up people in a book.
From: Out on the Sea of Madness... Insane since: Dec 2003
posted 07-27-2006 04:26
quote: Moon Dancer said:
Wow, jade.
You seriously frighten me. I wish I could say I was being facetious
with that comment but I'm not.
Uhh... what Moon Dancer said.
Jade, I read you post with my mouth open in astonishment. I cannot believe that in the 21st century, such... stubbornness.. can be present in one person.
I'm so glad I learned tolerance and agape for others from my family, instead of whatever it was you learned from yours.
Yeah for the Washington Supreme Court.. There is a God. And thank God as the movement for pro gay/lesbian marriage is dealt setbacks over and over again to keep the liberal gay americans from shoving gay marriage down our chocking sore throats.
Reading thru the responses I gathered a feeling of anger, disgust and resentment towards me in my views. Good I got some stirring up of the pot. I don't sugar coat the truth.
Its better to tell it like it is. In the ministry of Christ, he was considered a rebel and was hated by many, but look what became of him. He was a voice for his father in heaven and that is what I do fo him.
The fundamental difference between you liberals is that we as conservatives believe man is created in God's image. Your liberal way of thinking is that you are the gods who want to create utopia on earth in trying to breaking the traditional bonds of marriage and ties between parents and a child. Will you never quit, in defending a lie. Will I never tire of debating or trying to get or point across.
Aren't' most opposing Bush , Democratic hopeful presidential candidates or just in general liberal Democrats insist that they oppose gay marriage. They are for "civil unions" with all the legal rights of marriage. But not the traditional union of marriage The big argument for "civil unions" but not marriage! is that gays are denied ordinary civil rights here in the USof A. Gays usually bring up the argument about all the straight couples living in "sham" marriages, ha. but what about the Clintons. Hm....
What gays can't do is get "really married" something all Democratic liberal hopefuls swear up and down to oppose on record. Instead, they demand "civil unions" and then throw out a series of "whys". In fact, the only difference between what the liberals claim to support (civil unions) and what they claim to oppose (gay marriage) is the word "marriage." A losing presidential wishy washy hopeful loser, JK once stated, I think the term "marriage" gets in the way of what is really being talked about here." Go figure??? Can someone really define what is a " marriage" ?? Is it in eye of the "rights" of the beholder or what US laws dictates? The answer is "none of the above.. Because the institution of marriage is about the union of persons in light of God's business. And no one on this earth can change its defines, though they may try to be Gods, it will never be able to change what he has created in light of scripture.
quote:Its better to tell it like it is. In the ministry of Christ, he was considered a rebel and was hated by many, but look what became of him. He was a voice for his father in heaven and that is what I do fo him.
You, jade, are no Christ. You should be appalled at your own arrogance in comparing yourself to him. Christ weeps at the hatred you spread in his name.
The rest of what you said follows no logical train of thought whatsoever. Try responding directly to what has been said to you. (Note I said "respond," not "react.") Otherwise, like DL-44 said, there's no point in your posting again. No sane person will attempt a conversation with someone who unresponsively shouts drivel. You're not changing any minds here.
I never compare myself as being the savior in comparision to Christ, but if your familiar with scripture.....we are suppose to imitate Christ...that is why he came for us.. to show us how to live, speak and reveal who he is... I do not think Christ would want us to reveal a undignified, unworthy and mean spirited person... which I am not...but I will not sit back and defend and become one with a lie...which is what homosexual love is...It has become a normal union of persons for you and you all are so passionate about the rights of a homosexual lifestyle that your not seeing the real picture... ..which is the dehumanizing of the human person. In our divine teachings, a real human though he may look human isn't until he reflects the essence of who the Christ was and is, which is the perfect human. In our striving to become a complete person with Christ, we try to repel anything that keeps us from this union. A tendency to mate with a same sex person is a falsehood. A tendency to mate with anyone outside the realms of a male/female committed union is a falsehood.
According to our Chrisitan teachings, and why we believe the way we do .....
God created the body as a "sign" of his own divine mystery. Because God is the source of the compliments of the sexes, when God created man in the image of himself, he created both a male and a female. They were then directed to be fruitful and multiply by becoming one flesh. This was the original vocation of man and woman, to unite their bodies and produce life, but to do so in the "image of God" which means it must bear the these characteristics ....it must be free,... total,... faithful and fruitful always and forever.
This teaching was not something invented by the our RC but taken directly from scripture. From the book of Genesis the bible uses spousal love more than any other image to help us understand God's eternal plan for humanity, We can see from reading, God wants to marry us. A passage in Hosea 2 tells us ..God wants to live with us in an "eternal exchange of love." This marital analogy is used because it best describes what God intends for us too to love as he loves, and to be united in that love with an "other" as well as with God. We were made for love and communion and this desire is inscribed into our very bodies. For us, we cannot achieve its desire without an "other." Male and female have a built-in desire for an "other" not a "same." Because humans have a soul, their union should far surpass the mere sense level of animals, and should involve the spirit as well as the body. In should be love that unites them, not just a physical urge. And this love that unites man and woman is meant to mirror God's love, which has certain characteristics its free.... total,.... faithful and fruitful. This is exactly what spouses commit to at the altar or with the preacher . . . to give themselves to one another without reservations, to be faithful until death, and to receive whatever children God wishes to send them. Every time this couple unites themselves in the marital embrace, they are, in a sense, renewing those vows. This is the proper reflection of God's marital love for us, in the marital embrace of those he created in his own image.
Per Christian teachingsd homosexual unions are not marital as God's love is marital because they are not fruitful. Homosexuality reduces the meaning of real sexuality as mere sensations and lacks the true gift of self that reflects authentic marital love. The longings for a union that is stamped into our very bodies becomes distorted and confused, driving us farther and yonder in search of a satisfaction that does not exist outside of God's plan. But the meaning behind the sriptuiral Churchs teaching on human sexuality goes deeper . Our experience reaveals that even in the most wonderful human relationship, that ache of solitude isn't entirely satisfied. We still yearn for something more. If sex really was our ultimate fulfillment, then marriage would be nirvana. . . . The marital embrace, as beautiful as it is, is only a foreshadowing of what's to come ? only a sign of something far greater . . .""" A union with God. """
Have you ever heard this famous saying in religious circles "every man who knocks on the door of a brothel is looking for God." Same is true of homosexual distorted love. Our desire for union with an "other" will never be ultimately satisfied until we are united with our creator. We have to remind our selves original sin robbed us of this ability to love as God loves. This is why we need a Redeemer. Jesus didn't die and rise again just to give us a kind of coping mechanism. Jesus came to restore creation to the purity of its origins. Jesus came to give us what we lost. That's why the Church claims that our longing for union can only be satisfied in Christ.
Our good news is that through genuine conversion of heart to the message of life found in Jesus Christ, we can all be liberated from what the domination of LUST in its counterfits, which of one is homosexuality.. Christ's grace can accomplish all that we cannot. If we live according to the truth of our sexuality we fulfill the very meaning of life. . We as Christians believe with the grace of God we can destroy the existiting conterfit culture that brings eternal death and brings us back to the glory of this great creation of earth.
DL.. I have always heard and real how the life of a homosexual is a hardlife because they go against the grain of human existance. I found this in our teachings but you can find the same info on any secular site:
Emotional/Mental Health Risks
Two extensive studies published in the October 1999 issue of American Medical Association Archives of General Psychiatry confirmed the existence of a strong link between homosexuality and suicide, as well as other mental and emotional problems.
Youth who identify themselves as homosexual, lesbian and bisexual are four times more likely than their peers to suffer from major depression; three times more likely to suffer anxiety disorders, four times more likely to suffer conduct disorders, six times more likely to suffer from multiple disorders and more than six times more likely to have attempted suicide.
Many homosexual activists point their finger at homophobia as the cause of these disorders, but the most extensive studies have been done in the Netherlands and New Zealand where homosexuality is widely accepted.
In an interview with Zenit News, Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons, a child and adult psychiatrist in practice for more than 27 years, said, "Compared to controls who had no homosexual experience in the 12 months prior to the interviews, males who had any homosexual contact within that time period were much more likely to experience major depression, bipolar disorder, panic disorder, agoraphobia and obsessive compulsive disorder. Females with any homosexual contact within the previous 12 months were more often diagnosed with major depression, social phobia or alcohol dependence."
He concluded by saying, "Men and women with a history of homosexual contact had a higher prevalence of nearly all psychiatric disorders measured in the study. These findings are the result of a lifestyle marked by rampant promiscuity and an inability to make commitments, combined with unresolved sadness, profound insecurity, anger and mistrust from childhood and adolescence."
Physical Abuse
A recent study published in the American Journal of Public Health has shown that 39 percent of males with same-sex attraction have been abused by other homosexual men.
A study by Susan Turrell entitled "A descriptive analysis of Same-Sex Relationship Violence for a Diverse Sample," and published in the Journal of Family Violence (vol 13, pp 281-293), found that relationship violence was a significant problem for homosexuals. Forty-four percent of gay men reported having experienced violence in their relationship; 13 percent reported sexual violence and 83 percent reported emotional abuse.
Levels of abuse ran even higher among lesbians with 55 percent reporting physical violence, 14 percent reporting sexual abuse and 84 percent reporting emotional abuse.
As outrageous as it might sound, "Most medical groups have embraced the homosexual agenda and are advocating that lifestyle despite all the scientific studies and medical evidence that demonstrate medical and psychological risks," said Joseph Nicolosi, President of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality. "Homosexual activism and political correctness are clearly trumping science."
Church Teaching
The same forces are also attempting to stifle authentic Church teaching on this subject by labeling it as "homophobic" and "hate speech." However, once one is made fully aware of the medical facts, it's much easier to understand why the Church teaches that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered. They are contrary to the natural law." (CCC2357)
Unfortunately, the word 'disordered' steals all the attention and leaves much of Church teaching drowned out by angry invectives. Father John Harvey, founder of Courage, a support group for people with same sex attraction who are seeking to live a chaste life, laments the fact that far too many people, including Catholics themselves, are left with the impression of ". . .an authoritarian Church that makes decisions arbitrarily, without considering the nature of things. Nothing could be further from the truth."
Even from an immunological point of view, the body itself considers homosexual acts to be disordered. For instance, there are substances in seminal fluid called "immuno-regulatory macromolecules" that send out "signals" that are only understood by the female body, which will then permit the "two in one flesh" intimacy required for human reproduction. When deposited elsewhere, these signals are not only misunderstood, but cause sperm to fuse with whatever somatic body cell they encounter. This fusing is what often results in the development of cancerous malignancies. ("Sexual Behavior and Increased Anal Cancer", Immunology and Cell Biology 75 (1977); 181-183))
Clearly, Church teaching on human sexuality is not founded upon pious patriarchal prudery, but is soundly based in science, biology and anthropology ? all of which is illumined by the added gift of faith.
The same losing cause for religious zealots against inter-racial couples will happen with gay marriages. I believe their slogan then was; " It says Adam and Eve, not straight hair and a weave! ".
Anyways, here's an idea I agree with: Marriage, as far as the state is concerned, is nothing more than a civil union. We must remove the language, the word "marriage" from legal proceedings. The state should not be involved in marriages- all people should be granted civil unions, and then be married in a ceremony of their choosing with whatever crowd chooses to recognize the sanctity of that union.
I believe life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are inalienable rights every citizen of this country receives. Not allowing same-sex couples the right to marry infringes on their pursuit of that happiness. It's discrimination through and through. I see nothing morally or unethically wrong with same-sex marriage.
quote:Quoting church literature, that tailors selective data to suit its objectives is rightly called propoganda and proves nothing except, gullibility
Any kind propaganda forced on us by any politicians, proponets of any kind, or free thinkers proves anyone with a idology can make a religion out of liberalism and homosexuality. So your statement only reflects what some have spoon fed you into believing what is good is right for everyone else.. So you are gullible.
So an idology without God who is against God is a movment or cult or group. Sound like a cult you have embraced. Surprised there is not a church named Church of Liberalist. I see it coming.
quote:Realists are not without values or morality. Our values are based on Humanism rather than a fictional holy book. As Realists, our values include Positive Evolution, Exploration, Honesty and Integrity, Freedom, Individualism, Peace, Courage, Environmentalism, Compassion, Justice, Inclusiveness, Scrutiny and Doubt, Humility, Reason, Wisdom, and Personal Responsibility. We believe in Original Virtue rather than Original Sin. We are a Doubt-Based rather than Faith-Based religion.
Oh, and btw, the more I read you the more you make think to Ann "crazy bitch" Coulter.
quote:Jade: Any kind propaganda forced on us by any politicians, proponets of any kind, or free thinkers proves anyone with a idology can make a religion out of liberalism and homosexuality.
"Us" meaning people of faith?
quote:Jade: So your statement only reflects what some have spoon fed you into believing what is good is right for everyone else. So you are gullible.
Doesn't your religion spoon feed your beliefs that what is good is right for everyone else?
quote:Jade: So an idology without God who is against God is a movment or cult or group. Sound like a cult you have embraced. Surprised there is not a church named Church of Liberalist. I see it coming.
I disagree. A "cult" CAN BE be an ideology with god and for god. It just might be a different version of what is socially accepted or varies from the teachings from any organized or not organized religious order.
I don't want to get personal here Jade, but do you really believe that simply because you follow God, that you are incapable of being discriminatory towards gay people?
So, jade how long ago was it that you read Ann Coulter's latest fare? I could have sworn I read almost the same words on the jacket of that book (albeit slightly more coherent). The expanse of your original thought astounds me.
Whatever.
Bah... I had more I was going to say, but I'm not going to waste words on deaf ears.
No..never read an ann coulter book or read her book jacket but I have heard of her and may buy one of her bestsellers.. I hear every book she writes is a bestseller. So..if I come accross sounding like her ...I definitley have to read up.
I am not astounded Moon Dancer in the logic for the allowing of gay marriages....it reeks of a foul odor....and nastiness. Rights to live in freedom???? I suppose if an individual wants to have sex with a horse in the barnyard and marry the stud....it should be allowed in the name of " freedom" of two consenting beings since a horse can bow in a"I do". As unbelievable as this sounds people are that stupid.....I read in a magazine a crazy person wants to marry their german shepherd. How sick.
What if a 65 year old man wants to marry a consenting 18 year fresh out of high school youngling graduate...because they are in love... And the 18 year old is your brother and just maybe they want to adopt some babies, toddlers or grown adult 13 year old males for children and live happily ever after. If they are given rights like normal married couples shouldn't they be allowed to do so because they should be protected? Allowing homosexual civil unions just opens a pandoras box of a gulf of many more issues in the name of freedom than issuess like medical care, insurance, benefits, privacy, etc. and the politicians, judges can forcast this. What will be next?
Notice that a german shepherd and a horse might have some problems to sign the act of mariage, not to mention to understand their rights and duties that come with it and conscent to the union.
Jade your reasoning about gays/lesbian is dark sided.
quote:Jade: Allowing homosexual civil unions just opens a pandoras box,......What will be next?
Again with the worse-case scenario response. Do you have any facts as to what good or bad will happen when gay people are allowed to get the same benefits as "normal" couples get? No you don't. Do you know why that is? Because their are no proven facts to begin with, since they are not in the system at all for any such research to be done. It's just your "fear-speculation" that drives your ignorance.
Besides what good has your "normal" couples done for this country? Do you have any idea how much "normal" couples cost this country year after year? It's in the billions. Do you know how many ****ed up people exist today because of your "normal" couples? Millions! Do you know how many children are scarred each day by your "normal" couples? Millions! Scarred children because of priests? More than like it's in the millions but who really knows because the children are too ****ed up to tell! Do you even have any idea that your use of "normal" is anything but? Why not try and lead a crusade to fix your "normal" couples before you lambast the gay people. Trust me you've got a lot of work to do there.
Your "normal" couples have been allowed way too much leeway with respect to the rights that they are given. They abuse the sytem and I think your just worried that you and your ilk might lose a bit of those benefits and your scared. As religious as you CLAIM to be I see no compassion in anything you have posted here. And as humanity goes you are very much an empty vessel. Whatever you think may be fulfilling your soul to reach heaven it's nothing compared to the intolerance you have for gay people. And if you truly are that loving of person you will see that what you are doing is simply showing HIM that you truly are not worthy of his love.
You are an embarassment to the entire HUMAN race, to God, and to Jesus, and all that he stands for. I tried to not keep this personal but you have that knack of bringing out the worse in people with you views on this issue. You are so far off on this issue I dare say you don't use your brain correctly. Your disgust for gay people is based on nothing more than religious intolerance of others. Your soapbox is tainted with the tears of Jesus as he watches you from up high. The soul problem with this world starts with people like you.
quote:What if a 65 year old man wants to marry a consenting 18 year fresh out of high school youngling graduate...because they are in love... And the 18 year old is your brother and just maybe they want to adopt some babies, toddlers or grown adult 13 year old males for children and live happily ever after.
There is nothing illegal about a 65 year old marrying an 18 year old - it happens frequently.
People also adopt 13 year olds quite frequently.
So...it's ok for heterosexuals to do these things, but not homosexuals?
quote:I have always heard and real how the life of a homosexual is a hardlife because they go against the grain of human existance. I found this in our teachings but you can find the same info on any secular site:
Actually, I have done quite a bit of searching and have yet to find any site that is not religously oriented with an anti-homosexual agenda that agrees with much of anything in the bit you copied and pasted above. I also find very little of actual fact or of relevant fact in that little bit of nonsense.
At this point, I think jade is just trolling. She knows the more she spouts her nonsense, the more we'll denounce her beliefs, which she sees as persecution and proudly wears as a badge of honor.
Anything jade doesn't like should be burned. No one deserves freedom but jade.
Boy she is really something, very intelligent and fearless. I must read her books for sure..this is just a sample of some of her pts..
Ann Coulter on Liberal fear of Christians
Ann Coulter, in a article at Front Page, has a few choice words for liberals who insist that Christians are the greatest danger facing civilization today:
Despite repeated suggestions from liberals ? including the in-house "conservative" and Clinton-supporter at the Times ? Hitler is not what happens when you gin up Christians. Like Timothy McVeigh, the Columbine killers and the editorial board of the New York Times, Hitler detested Christians.
Indeed, Hitler denounced Christianity as an "invention of the Jew" and vowed that the "organized lie (of Christianity) must be smashed" so that the state would "remain the absolute master." Interestingly, this was the approach of all the great mass murderers of the last century ? all of whom were atheists: Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.
In the United States, more than 30 million babies have been killed by abortion since Roe v. Wade, vs. seven abortion providers killed. Yeah ? keep your eye on those Christians!
But according to liberals, it's Christianity that causes murder. (And don't get them started on Zionism.) Like their Muslim friends still harping about the Crusades, liberals won't "move on" from the Spanish Inquisition. In the entire 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, about 30,000 people were killed. That's an average of less than 100 a year. Stalin knocked off that many kulaks before breakfast.
She concludes:
Of course, the original text is no excuse in Hollywood. The villains of Tom Clancy's book "The Sum of All Fears" were recently transformed from Muslim terrorists to neo-Nazis for the movie version. You wouldn't want to upset the little darlings. They might do something rash like slaughter 3,000 innocent American civilians in a single day. The only religion that can be constantly defamed and insulted is the one liberals pretend to be terrified of.
hattip Brothers Judd
Which proves my point. No direct response to what's been said to her, no response to nearly every question posed to her. Just more fuel for the fire burning beneath the stake she ties herself to.
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In not agreeing with my views or when you have opposing views the best solutiion is to shut them up by pulling the plug? Your view is I don't make sense.
What hypocrasy.
quote: binary said:
Who has ever seen a dog or a horse fucking another male dog or horse...
I have. I have seen calves trying to do each other, as well as dogs trying to screw whatever they could - including a friend of mine's leg. This is common and really have nothing to do with the subject.
Anyway, the point isn't really about being born gay or not, here, or have I missed something? The point is rather about treating gay people differently than heterosexual.
I was going to say many other things, but I really can't be bothered; it looks like you haven't read the thread. Or am I missing your point?
If you do that binary that is censorship. In not agreeing with my views or when you have opposing views the best solutiion is to shut them up by pulling the plug? Your view is I don't make sense. What hypocrasy.
After your past tirades on needing to censor what you don't agree with, you have the gall to say such a thing? Wow.
quote: binary said:
I truly believe this is wrong...who has ever seen a dog or a horse fucking another male dog or horse...The laws of nature have proven that like poles repel unlike poles attract...and thats where common sense comes in.
This is where SO many people show such complete ignorance!
It happens in nature ALL THE TIME. I've seen more male dogs and/or cats screwing each other than I could possibly count.
However, lets reiterate ONE MORE TIME: Homosexual couples, like heterosexual couples, are about far more than just sex. There's more to it than just the 'fucking', binary.
From: somewhere in the great indoors Insane since: Sep 2002
posted 08-03-2006 23:03
I am starting to understand this now. Jade....Ann Coulter...Ann Coulter....Jade... hmmmm. Has anyone seen these two in the same room at the same time? No, I didn't think so.
That settles it, we know who is hidding behind the name 'Jade' now!
posted 07-25-2006 22:57
Have you ever taken a step out of your church?
Welcome to the real world, and 
After your past tirades on needing to censor what you don't agree with, you have the gall to say such a thing? Wow.