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brad_nelson1
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: jax, fl usa
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 06-07-2001 08:59

thinking about trying out some new software and wanted to know what yall tihnk the best is?

Frontpage, Dreamweaver, golive, somthing else?

thanks for your help.

Brad

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-07-2001 09:22

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Jeni
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: 8675309
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 06-07-2001 14:02

I'm learning and my design sucks, but I'm using Simpletext. Windows equivalent=wordpad.

Loonies love trucks.

Phil
Bipolar (III) Mad Scientist

From: Eastbourne, UK.
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-07-2001 14:30

Acehtml4...Freeware...comes from Visi.....use it for syntax checking only.....

Notepad rules, but then I don't do this to earn a crust....

lallous
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Lebanon
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 06-07-2001 15:08

I also use DreamWeaver 4 or UltraDev, sometimes use FrontPage and all of these with the combination of EditPlus2.

Jeni
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: 8675309
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 06-07-2001 15:25

*picturing a crusty Phil*

linear
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: other places
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-07-2001 15:57

UltraEdit 32 on Windoze, vi on real operating systems

Ducati
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in your head
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 06-07-2001 16:16

Dreamweaver 4.... loving it


GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 06-07-2001 19:22

there has already been a very very long topic about this in the dhtml-forum, but i couldnt find it anymore?
damned! mad scis! are you crazy people not putting all topics in the archives?!?!?!?!?!

linear
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: other places
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-07-2001 19:49

There were several topics that failed to get archived around the time Doc switched hosting proveiders, as I recall. Damn shame.

mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 06-07-2001 21:20

MAX's HTML Beauty++ ME all the way...

Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 06-07-2001 21:33

I use Dreamweaver 3 can't afford 4 yet... and Arachnophilia.

I also use 'The Perl Scripting tool' and FoxServe for texting Perl and PHP (still learning...)

Anyone know of a ultra simple 'notepad' like program they will correctly read binary text files (line endings without those little squares) and one that doesn't have a word limit!!!! I'm really getting tired of the nag box for TPST and don't think it's worth the ammount their asking...



mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 06-07-2001 21:39

MAX's HTML Beauty++ ME isn't ultra simple 'notepad' like program, but it can correctly read all kinds of text files and doesn't have any file size / words limit...

jiblet
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-07-2001 23:02

If you're on a Mac I HIGHLY recommend BBEdit 6. The more I use this thing the better it seems. Here's a few of the features that I find particularly useful for my webwork (HTML & PHP mostly):

? Syntax coloring for every language you ever heard of plus glossary support to add more.
? Full GREP support, not as great as Perl Regexps, but ALMOST.
? Complete menu shortcut configurability, let's you markup a lot of code FAST without the mouse.
? Command to tab-indent or outdent blocks of text, particularly useful in conjunction with regexps to cleanup bad code.

Basically every time I wish for a feature, it seems all I need to do is peruse the menus. It even has wizards for almost every HTML element for those who can't remember all the attributes/semantics.

-jiblet

twItch^
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: the west wing
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 06-07-2001 23:36

BBEdit is fantastic. On the PC, I use UltraEdit.

So there.

Pugzly
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 06-08-2001 01:27

I use UltraEdit mostly, although I'm slowly starting to use Max's program.

Which reminds me - Max - any update/upgrade coming soon? I have a couple of suggestions!

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-08-2001 01:28

EditPlus

-mage-

kevincar
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: north hills, ca usa
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 06-08-2001 02:27

textpad is cool - Max's thing is good too.
I like textpad cause for shareware it's not noisy, views binary files, is
VERY java-aware and friendly, has text "clip" files, and a whole lot more.




[This message has been edited by kevincar (edited 06-08-2001).]

Fake
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 06-08-2001 03:56

DW4... although i still use notepad some times

Steve
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Boston, MA, USA
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 06-08-2001 05:15

BBEdit hre too, augmented with the HTMLTidy plugin.

Yeah.

mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 06-08-2001 07:26

Pugzly, e-mail me your suggestions. I'll release an update very very soon (in a few weeks)...

lallous
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Lebanon
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 06-08-2001 08:27

Max: do you really use your own editor?

MissTerry
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: somewhere in the old world
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 06-08-2001 10:49

Mac: GoLive, Tex-Edit Plus
PC: FrontPage, UltraEdit


WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 06-08-2001 11:15

Dreamweaver 4.0 and self-html as reference guide. By the way Max, love your site! Nice wallpaper.

Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 06-08-2001 11:48

Ok thanks guys, I'll give UltraEdit and MAX's HTML Ugly -- go.

At the moment I'm using Arachnophilia which looked very similar to MAX's HTML Beauty, last time I browsed through MAX's site that is. It's just go some anoying/buggy habbits (no-wrap jumps all over the place ), but the completely customizable menu's and keyboard macro's are really nice... but anyway, thanks all for your input.

mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 06-08-2001 15:19

Lallous, yes, I only use MAX's HTML Beauty++ ME (but, I've tried almost every HTML editor avilable, since I'm a software developer)... Why do you ask?

WebShaman, there will be much more wallpapers very very soon (in a few weeks)...

Dracusis, Hey! Don't call it ugly! It's the beauty of HTML coding...

St. Seneca
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 3rd shelf, behind the cereal
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted posted 06-08-2001 17:11

Simpletext was my editor of choice. Then I started saving Excell spreadsheets as HTML files and absolutely abhored the code. Since simpletext doesn't have a find and replace function so I started using BBEdit to fix those nasty tables. I got to liking the colored tags, so I've stuck with it. I don't even use Simpletext any more.

It's your God, they're your rules, YOU go to Hell.

Pugzly
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 06-09-2001 17:06

lallous - Just look at the source of some of Max's code that he's posted here.

kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 06-09-2001 17:14

I use a pen and a piece of paper. Then I scan it into my computer and use the software that came with my scanner to turn my handwriting into typed text.

Its really a pain when I make a mistake...

rotren
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Camrose, Alberta, Canada, Hörnefors, Västerbotten, Sweden
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 06-09-2001 18:54

I like Max HTML Beauty ++, it is really nice. But I wish it could preview the page in different resolutions too. Dreamweaver 4 is also great, but I hate it when you go between code and edit mode and the cursor jumps to a different place. UltraEdit I also use, it fast baby, and it is great for "fast fixes" and scripting/coding. Been waiting for the new version of 1st Page 2000, but it doesn't seem to arrive in this century. It's also pretty good, but for now, Max's proggy is better.
--rotren--

arlechinu
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: dunno, really dunno anymore...
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 06-10-2001 00:58

i personally started from scrap with DW4 UltraDev
it's easy to learn lots, even HTML and javascript, as it comes with O'Reilly's Reference book or sth like that
so DW4 is the best, love it!

mbridge
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 06-10-2001 01:31

I use DW4 UltraDev and 1st Page (nice text editor).

PhotoChild
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Moldy, Rainy State
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 06-12-2001 01:51

Dreamweaver 4 is the bomb - basic rule: if you don't know what HTML is, no editor is going to help. I edit my code even after DW is done with it almost all the time, but if you don't unerstand why it works, and how HTML is laying thigs out, and why stuff gets pushed this way and that, NO editor is going to really help. Dreamweaver, for me, is a way of getting my tables up there without spending all day coding the numbers seperately - that's all . . .


meathook
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: USA
Insane since: Jun 2001

posted posted 06-16-2001 05:40

i've been using allaire homesite, which is also a code based editor. i decided that i wanted to see what the layout editors had to offer. my conclusion is adobe golive is terrible and i have still yet to make good use of dreamweaver's layout features because i keep going into the code to edit the html, which defeats the purpose of a layout editor. maybe it's because i'm not used to it yet but i'll give dreamweaver another shot. i went to the macromedia site and saw homesite on its tech support page. did they buy out allaire? as for golive, that program crashes every other second. went to adobe's technical support and it's actually documented as a known problem since version 3! i can't believe they don't fix a problem like that in the later releases. crashing is negative productivity.

JakeB
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: us
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 06-16-2001 06:35

i don't know if anyone answered yet, but here's a free, no nag, source included hex editor http://203.157.250.93/win32asm/files/HexEdit.zip i bet it doesn't work on mac since it uses windows api It is fast because it's assembly.

Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 06-16-2001 08:51

Lately my Visual C++ editor.

Basically it's notpad with colors.




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meathook
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: USA
Insane since: Jun 2001

posted posted 06-17-2001 07:53

hey mr. max, i downloaded your html beauty++ and must say i was very delighted. now i don't have to worry when i load up allaire and it tells me i have to upgrade because i don't...i have max's html beauty! just curious though, how come you don't have it free for download at cnet's downloads.com?

mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 06-17-2001 09:05

Most of those sites don't like my splash screen...

meathook
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: USA
Insane since: Jun 2001

posted posted 06-17-2001 15:33

haha. that's hilarious.

Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 06-17-2001 17:27

Why not just take that out Max?



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