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Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 01-12-2002 21:24

I have always loved conundrums. A conundrum is a puzzling question. Sometimes the answers involve a pun.

The more difficult ones are usually handled like this. The person trying to solve it can ask yes or no questions until they find the solution. Sometimes the answer will have to be "irrelevant" instead of yes or no to keep things on track.

Here are a couple of simple ones:

- A young boy and his father get into a terrible traffic accident. The father is ok but the son needs an operation to save his life. The surgeon on duty comes in and exclaims, "Oh my God! I can't operate on this boy. He's my son!". How can this be?

- Thirty people are found dead in a cabin high in the mountains. What happened to them?

I've got some even more complicated ones if anyone likes these.

Nimraw
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Styx
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 01-12-2002 21:42

Easy enough *S*

1. The surgeon is the boys mother.
2. They died

Sorry I haven't any conundrums to post, but keep 'em coming bugs!



Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 01-12-2002 21:46

Yes, the surgeon was the boy's mother.

But you are going to have to find a few more details about how those people died

Get that and I'll give some more.

DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-12-2002 22:01




The plane crashed.





ICQ:# 10237808

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 01-12-2002 22:16

You betcha! Well done, DG.

Every day a man leaves his apartment on the 46th floor and rides the lift down to the first floor to go to work. Every evening at about 6 pm he gets in the lift, takes the lift up to the 38th floor, gets out and walks up the stairs for the remaing eight floors until he reaches the 46th floor.

Why?



vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 01-12-2002 22:37

is it cos he is the lift operator? on a split shift? so in the morning the night shift lift operator (who lives on the 38th floor) leaves the lift on the 46th floor for the day shift lift operator, and in turn every night , the day shift lift operator returns the favour by leaving the lift at the 38th floor ready again for the night shift lift operator?

(the more I read that the more I think I need to get out more often!) ~Vp~

dit for typos



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Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 01-12-2002 22:40

~Vp~ according to the way this works I answer either yes,no, or irrelevant. So...

no

BeeKay
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Carolina mountains
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted posted 01-12-2002 23:31

He's vertically challenged (midget) and can't reach the higher buttons on the elevator keypad.

mahjqa
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: The Demented Side of the Fence
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 01-12-2002 23:31

Edit: Hey BKay! I was first!


He's too short to reach the button to his floor.

All right, mine:

How many Animals did Moses take with him on his ship?



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GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-12-2002 23:52

either you mean Noah or
if you mean moses: none, he was the only person in that "basket"

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 00:03

You got it, GRUMBLE. Do you have one to challenge us with?

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 00:31


wait a bit, im thinking of one...



GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 00:36

ok, you may know this already, but it's the first, that came into my mind:

what animal has four legs in the morning, two at noon and three in the evening?

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BeeKay
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: North Carolina mountains
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 02:29

Man.
Four legs as a baby, two as an adult, and three as elderly (with a cane).

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-13-2002 04:46

I used to have a list of those somewhere, i cant seem to locate it....

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 04:54

How about this one:

You have two ropes. They will each burn for one hour. They do not burn at a uniform rate because they are of varying thicknesses.

If you have no other way of telling time, how can you determine that 45 minutes have elapsed?

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-13-2002 04:55

now wait a minut, if there found in a cabin that means the plane crashed into the cabin which means the cabin was obliterated and they weren't found in a cabin, they coulda just frozen over

now conundrums are also like riddles only more realistic... and since beekay hasn't posted one yet ill do one! its very common...

A man is found hung in a room with no windows or furniture, he is about 5 feet tall but 6 feet off the ground, the only opening in this room is the door and it is 7 in radius of where this man was hanging, the only thing in the room besides the man was a puddle of water beneath(spelling?) him, how did he get up there to hang himself?

now remember it is a commen one

EDIT: DARN BUGS URS WAS 1 MINUT BEFORE MINE!!!!!! ok go ahead and do his first then mine later...


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kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 05:09

He stood on a block of ice.

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 05:51

InSiDeR, the cabin refers to an airplane cabin and not a log cabin. That's the trick to that one.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-13-2002 05:54

Bugs: ooh! DOH! sorry its late im taken an online IQ test right now and my brain is stressed

kretts: yes but answere bugs now

i think that if they dont burn at same rate one would be really thick and short and one would be really thin and long to burn up equally

but i still dunno the answere



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flashtongue
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jan 2002

posted posted 01-13-2002 05:59

burn one rope and an hour is past so, you can be certain 45 minutes are up
and you still have a rope to play with
pass

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-13-2002 06:05

heh never thought of it that way...

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-13-2002 06:16

Alright i got one!

Picture a bridge four kilometers long and strong enough to hold ten thousand kilograms, but no more. A loaded transport truck weighing exactly ten thousand kilograms drives onto the bridge. At the halfway point, a sparrow weighing 30 grams lands on the truck, yet the bridge doesn't collapse. How could this be?

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-13-2002 08:53

Hmmm I dont guess anyone cares...

DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 13:38

after two kilometers he would have burned off much more than 30 grams of fuel.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-13-2002 16:46

DOH! yup thats right gj DG, do you have a book for these or something? anyways your pretty intelligent

Morph
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Soft Cell
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 01-13-2002 18:34

Here's an EASY one to get warmed up so anyone left scratching their heads needs thier pills revoking for the day:
A similar bridge to insider's spanning 200 metres across a canyon will hold 200 pounds in weight. A man weighing 190 pounds steals 3 gold items from a temple each weighing 10 pounds. the temple gaurds are right behind him so how does he get across the bridge with all three items?

Bugimus, could'nt you cut one rope in half and in half again so you have 4 quarters, light one quarter and the next when the first is burned out and then the third? that would come to 45 minutes when the third was used up


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DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 21:05

he juggles.

and nope, no book.

Raptor
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: AČ, MI, USA
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 01-13-2002 21:17

i was gonna say he knocks out each guard with one of the gold objects then takes em across one at a time :P

A woman is having a house built, and wants a lot of plants, so she tells the contractors that she wants the windows only on the south side of the house. The house is built following the specifications, and a bear walks by. What color is the bear?

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Of course you're entitled to your own opinion.
Who said I have to agree with it?

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DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 21:31

grrr

~won't answer this one, so that someone else has a chance.~

Raptor
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: AČ, MI, USA
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 01-13-2002 21:38

lol. i know i know. something i thought of afterwards, is that considering there are only really 3 colors of bears, a better question would be "what color is the bear's skin?" as opposed to its fur color

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Of course you're entitled to your own opinion.
Who said I have to agree with it?

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 21:40

DG, sorry but i dont think that juggling is a solution due to the fact, that when catching an item it has the double weight for a short time.

the bear is white, cause it's an icebear. house is on northpole.

DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 21:51

uh...nothing ever has "double the weight" when weight=mass. Gravitational pull comes into play with force, but it would be completely nominal if the gold isn't thrown very high.

Sorry Grumble, to say it has twice the weight is really wrong, dude...but your viewpoint has a bit of weight (heh) in larger scales.

Morph
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Soft Cell
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 01-13-2002 22:16

mmm, i think this one is being over worked, cant we just accept the (right) answer in the spirit of which it was intended

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-13-2002 22:52

morph, so juggling is the right answer? ok then, big sorry everyone!

and yes, double weight isnt totally correct (i was to fast with thinking), but i still think, that when you catch it, it has more weight because:
weight(force)=gravity+kinetic energy
(or was it potential energy?)

and maybe also when you throw it up, because you have to create a force upwards and therefor there is a counterforce downwards.

am i confusing?

anyway, let's leave it as it is. i dont wanna destroy all the fun with my stupidity.

Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 01-14-2002 01:49

A friend armed me with this one when I was entering a riddle contest long ago:

A man has five children. Half of them are boys. How is this possible?

<edit>That's NOT counting the man along with his children.</edit>

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DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 01-14-2002 02:38

Grumble. You're close. Force (measurable weight on earth, not mass)= Mass X Acceleration.

As said though, the height of the balls in the air would be next to negligible to cause gravity (9.81 m/s/s) to really pick up in opposition to surface friction etc. etc.

And that's way too much physics for a fun game...heh.

I really did see your point, and agree that there would be added micrograms, but that would come in with him breathing too.

Hmm..maybe he could time it with exhalation...


~gets the hairs and the sharp knives~

-------------------------------

Hmm...hemaphrodite?

heh

OH COME ON, IT WAS WORTH A TRY.

InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 01-14-2002 03:21

a man doesnt have kids....

but if your asking that he had one with a girl, then the answere is.....
i dunno lol... thats a really good one i can't wait to here the answere to it if mine is wrong....

lmfao DG i woulda posted that if u didn't get there first



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mbridge
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 01-14-2002 04:17

Well the physics problem was bugging me. I realize this post is completely superfluous to the meaning of the thread, but I was just fooling around with some numbers.

Anyway, the model I've used ignores some of the dynamics of force, but it should be reasonably accurate. Oh ya, and I scaled the problem to the SI system because working with pounds is just a pain in the ass.

With the numbers given in the problem, doing anything more than walking across the bridge holding one brick would break the bridge. Why, you ask? Well if you look at the juggling motion, two bricks are instantaneously and simultaneously held meaning that the total weight would be 210 lbs at certain times in the juggling cycle.

Aside from that, just tossing the brick up in the air exerts a force downward that is independent of the gravity force on the man. This force is actually quite large and would easily snap the bridge if the man were to carry only one brick and throw that single brick up into the air. Here are some calculations that prove this point.

So I'm sure no one really cares...but I was bored while talking on AIM.

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 01-14-2002 04:42

Morph, no you can't just cut the rope into quarters because the rope does not burn at a uniform rate. Therefore, you could not be certain that a quarter of the rope would burn 15 minutes.

Come on now, I'm still waiting for a solution to my rope problem.

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