Preserved Topic: Anyone love Conundrums like I do? (Page 2 of 6)

the ropes thicknesses varies right, but are they the same length Bugs?

The lengths are not necessarily the same. But they will each burn for 1 hour.

Hmmmm, stirred up a hornets nest here, perhaps I should consider the physics of any future questions before asking them

~slopes off juggling bricks with one hand~

Did you account for the ammount of water he would loose due to persperating by the time he was at the center of the bridge? hrmm....

Buggs, can one mark the ropes in 4ths instead of cutting them into 4ths? and let them both burn to the average of 3/4ths????

bugs! the whole time i knew that i have already heard about this one, but i couldnt remember where.
ha, i talked to a friend about it yesterday and he cleared things up a little. then i remebered i saw it on tv long ago, but with another story around it.
afaik the solution is to burn one rope on both ends and also start burning the other one at the same time but only on one end. once the first rope is totally gone (30mins) also start burning the other one on the other end.
when it is gone too....45mins.

as for the physics thingie... since juggling was supposed to be the right answer i guess there is no solution for the man to get over the bridge. cause there is also a similar riddle from my physics lesson in school which i have thought of all the time. (that's why i came up with this theory)

again we have a bridge that holds 10000 kilograms. a truck which has loaded 50 birds is coming by and weighs exactly 10000 kilograms without any load and the birds are all in all 10 kilograms. (so 10010 kg -> bridge crashes)
is it able to pass the bridge when the driver could make the birds fly up in the loading room?
(no fuel burning this time )

Grumble

Providing that the cargo area is not a closed system, I guess the bridge will hold.

I do not think it would if the cargo space was airtight.

(this resembles a classic problem in the theoretical physics class)

hmmm, while chewing on that, consider this. A man is walking through the desert and comes across two unmarked graves. He opens the graves and inside finds a perfectly preserved man and woman. He knows instantly they are Adam and Eve. How?

morph, it isnt god, is it?

nimraw, im not 100% sure on this myself. but do you think it really matters if the cargo area is closed or not?
i think, that in either case the birds produce the same air-pressure on the "floor" of the truck than their weight is, so i think the bridge crashes, no matter what the birds do.

it's like the helicopter-principle.

Grumble, that was my first answer when I was told this one. Good but wrong

Grumble

It should matter whether the system is closed. In an open environment, the air pressure from the birds flapping ought to spread/leak into open air and not affect the truck much. If it is a closed system on the other hand the birds could do about anything they pleased and the bringe would crash. Constant mass within the confined space...

Nope, I haven't done any calculating over this Just seems as the most logical way to go in my mind.

The old physics example (that I also don't know the answer to) went something like this:
If you got a butterfly in a jar standing at a scale, will the scale react if the butterfly is taking off but still flying within the jar? Would it make any difference if you put the lid on the jar?

I think it would be a difference, and I used the same reasoning for the truck/bridge/bird-thingy

Morph:
Could the man opening the graves be their son?



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Nimraw: No not their son. These are the real Adam and Eve

GRUMBLE, yes, that's the solution to the ropes.

They don't have umbilicus markings (no belly buttons)?

nimraw, ok also if the birds are producing less pressure on the truck in an open system, it would at least be more than zero. and so we have a total weight of more than 10000. -> bam. bridge crashes.
that's my way of thinking, and that's why i also thought juggling isnt a solution to the other prob.

Well done, Dark, right on the mark

OK, a man weighs 180 pounds and robs a temple . . . . .

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What if the bird landed on the truck but kept its wings open and the truck was moving forward at precisely the air speed velocity needed for the bird to fly?

Of course, this brings up the whole debate on whether we're talking about an African or European swallow a la MPHG

you got a point bugs.

consider this:
a man weighs 280 pounds and robs a temple and with all the money he goes to a shop.
he ask, what does one cost?
- 20 cents, answers the shopkeeper.
what does 16 cost?
- 40 cents, answers the shopkeeper.
ok, then i take 296.
- ok, that's 60 cents, answers the shopkeeper.

what did he buy?

heehee the temple robber. is it house numbers Grumble?

morph, the temple robber, is correct!

i think with all that physics/mathematical stuff we are drifting away from the original idea of conundrums...

Bugs: Unless of course it was an african swallow! oh yes they can hold twice there wait but not a europian swallow! oh no their bills are much stronger! ...

What?! is the average airspeed velocity of an unlaident swallow?

that movie owns us all....

DarkGarden: if i didnt have school today i woulda been able to answere that one first! i remember it!

Everyone: are we forgetting perfect thunders riddle? a guy has 5 kids and half are boys how so?

also the physics....

On the bridge, I do believe that if he threw it up it would cause a downward force. Not to mention that grumble said the 2 guys were also fallowing him behind, that would have caused the bridge to colapse.

Bugs is right about the birds, if they are moving the same speed as the truck is and they are in the air, they will not cause any effect to the weight of the truck....

i still say he knocks out the guards with the items and carries them across one by one

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Of course you're entitled to your own opinion.
Who said I have to agree with it?

Perfect thunder, they are all boys. So naturally half of them are boys but so is the other half since it wasn't specified that the other half was girls.



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Bang on, Silence! That was the one that won my riddle contest, by the way, so long ago.

great!!!!!! ill remember that one...

InSiDeR, the temple guards would know the weight limit of the bridge so they wouldn't go on it

Raptor, this is your average temple robber, not Samson with an asses jawbone

Right, a man is laying dead in a room locked from the inside with no windows. on the bed is a plank of wood and in the bin is some sawdust. What happened?



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I gots one

A man living on the coast of England decided to go to bed for the night. He brushed his teeth and shut of the light then went to bed. When he got up in the morning he was horrified to see dead people all over the beach . What happened?

Apok:

The man was a light house attendant. He shut the light off to the light house and in doing so he caused a ship to wreak.

Later,
C:\


~Binary is best~

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or.... the man lived on a little island between europe and northen africa, and precisely the night before, the european union announced that all illegal resident foreigners could get citadinship the next day. now.... use your imagination

Way to go CPromt..............i think that was more a riddle. Im not sure what a colundrum is unless its a riddle in disquise.

PS: fun reading bugamus

Apok

Actually, Apok, that is what I consider a conundrum. It's a description like that with a story that needs fleshing out. Such as:

"A" lies dead on the floor. "B" is sleeping on the couch. There is a container on the table. What happened?

Someone answer Morph's, it's driving me crazy.

Also, here's one.

A man walks into a bar and asks the bartender for a glass of water. The bartender pulls out a gun and points it at the man. The man says "thank you". What was wrong with the man?

you dont drink water at a bar thats what water fountains are for

we may need to make a second thread for bug's awsome post

(dunno if that's the right way to say it in English) The man had hiccups.

Oh I think the answer to Morph's is that he juggles the 3 items while crossing the bridge

::Edit:: Of course DG already got that... bastard



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Correct, mahjqa. Good on!

Bitdamaged, I was talking about the one with the man in the room with no windows.

Bit, hee,hee

~We're not here for long, we're here for fun~

now what's it? there are some unanswered ones which im very interested in...

Like: "A" lies dead on the floor. "B" is sleeping on the couch. There is a container on the table. What happened?

Bugimus, is "A" a goldfish, "B" a cat and the container a fishbowl?

~We're not here for long, we're here for fun~

So you heard that one before, eh?

How about this one:

"A" and "B" are conversing in a room.
"B" turns and proceeds towards "C" in another room.
"A" drops to his knees, reaches into a drawer, and shoots "B" in the leg with a pistol.

Explain.